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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2020 14:04:10 GMT
Longish, but thought-provoking.
You won't see this in the MSM.
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Post by daw on Apr 17, 2020 14:33:41 GMT
And yet people will not believe because they are sheeple. 15 years ago we were working on this in our grassroots group. I could not go to all the meeting but I did work on certain programs. We did know what would cause what we were finding out but were appalled. I think if it was researched as to whom these law officers are that beat people you would find they are specially trained and paid. There are not new laws and it is not legal , this what is called one world government.
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Post by Txsteader on Apr 17, 2020 20:22:51 GMT
She caught my attention near the 4:00 mark when she referred to Constitutional rights of the people of Germany. So I looked it up. www.constituteproject.org/constitution/German_Federal_Republic_2012.pdfListed under Personal Freedoms.... Listed under Freedom of Movement.... I appreciate what she's trying to say but she must remember that not all countries have the same constitutional protections as Americans.
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Post by daw on Apr 17, 2020 20:41:32 GMT
But , if only I knew how to put it in words. These meetings I mentioned started because of agenda 21. A members property all of a sudden became smaller and he had sold no land. A creek ran through his property and they took that off... A son joined the service and he was told he had to turn in his American citizenship, That happened in the far SW No. County. They did not allow people to come to council meetings if they did they could write or record nothing. Just a few things we discussed.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 17, 2020 23:02:28 GMT
daw, Nobody has ever been forced or asked to give up their American citizenship when they join the military. There are indeed rules and restrictions on exercising all citizen rights, like free speech since it could lead to disharmony among the troops (mutiny), or the right to keep and bear arms on a military base, but you take an oath to the Constitution upon joining, hardly giving up your citizenship. One thing I noticed in the video, and I'll admit I couldn't watch the whole thing, was their presentation of an obscure document that was basically a historical record of the SARS virus, but it was presented in such a way as to look like a blueprint for future epidemics. The gal in the video is the same one who did another video posted here full of careful editing and slanted/misleading explanations of empty waiting rooms and standby medical facilities that weren't being used. She's got way too much time on her hands.
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Post by farmrbrown on Apr 17, 2020 23:51:50 GMT
daw , Nobody has ever been forced or asked to give up their American citizenship when they join the military. There are indeed rules and restrictions on exercising all citizen rights, like free speech since it could lead to disharmony among the troops (mutiny), or the right to keep and bear arms on a military base, but you take an oath to the Constitution upon joining, hardly giving up your citizenship. One thing I noticed in the video, and I'll admit I couldn't watch the whole thing, was their presentation of an obscure document that was basically a historical record of the SARS virus, but it was presented in such a way as to look like a blueprint for future epidemics. The gal in the video is the same one who did another video posted here full of careful editing and slanted/misleading explanations of empty waiting rooms and standby medical facilities that weren't being used. She's got way too much time on her hands. I didn't watch this one yet either, but I am still verifying things with my own eyes regardless. I haven't been to NY or anywhere else to look at hospitals, but I'm skeptical about anything or anybody when the numbers don't add up, period. In our state, NC, the "corona crisis" numbers (cases and deaths) are just now equal to this year flu season numbers, which has been a comparatively mild one. Since I've only heard a few times of short term rises in hospitalized patients during a really severe flu season, I never expected to see any healthcare problems with this virus in our area - and haven't. Now to that question about military service and citizenship. You may recall I've looked into citizenship issues before and found lots of info from various court cases. You're right when it comes to the U.S. military - there isn't any issue at all. However one of the few exceptions when your U.S. citizenship CAN be taken away or self renounced is if you join a foreign military. That may be what the video was talking about. If someone knows for sure they can chime in. travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Loss-US-Nationality-and-Foreign-Military-Service.html
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Post by daw on Apr 18, 2020 0:04:52 GMT
Ozarks Tom, I do not want to disagree. This young man fought for his rights, Went to court, Shortly thereafter another one was fighting for his rights. It was in the paper. I do not know about the first one but the second one was local.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 18, 2020 1:43:09 GMT
daw, I can promise you that with the exception of foreign born citizens of another country who are serving or have served in our military, each and every soldier/sailor/marine is an American citizen, with no requirement to give up their citizenship. Many green card holders, foreign visitors, join the military to fast track their applications for US citizenship. Upon enlistment everyone in the military takes an oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States of America. Does that sound like a non-citizen? I think maybe you've misunderstood what the litigation was about. As I said earlier, there are certain things you voluntarily give up when you join the military. Free speech is restricted when it's fomenting discord against military authority is an example. Wearing a uniform to a political activity is forbidden also. Let's just ask one simple question. If the American military aren't citizens, how can they vote in federal elections?
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Post by sawmilljim on Apr 18, 2020 2:33:05 GMT
daw , I can promise you that with the exception of foreign born citizens of another country who are serving or have served in our military, each and every soldier/sailor/marine is an American citizen, with no requirement to give up their citizenship. Many green card holders, foreign visitors, join the military to fast track their applications for US citizenship. Upon enlistment everyone in the military takes an oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States of America. Does that sound like a non-citizen? I think maybe you've misunderstood what the litigation was about. As I said earlier, there are certain things you voluntarily give up when you join the military. Free speech is restricted when it's fomenting discord against military authority is an example. Wearing a uniform to a political activity is forbidden also. Let's just ask one simple question. If the American military aren't citizens, how can they vote in federal elections? I recall some of what the case might be they refused to take a oath to the UN
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Post by farmerjack41 on Apr 18, 2020 3:53:21 GMT
You don't have to prove you are a citizen to vote in the state of Washington. When you get a drivers license, you are all signed up to vote. You do not have to prove you are a citizen to get the drivers license either. That's the way the liberals get elected here.
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Post by daw on Apr 18, 2020 12:02:25 GMT
None of you have ever lived in MacDonald County. This county was a trail set up for Agenda 21. The council members that made the laws for that county were not even residents of the county. You did not live there and no you can not believe. We worked hard to preserve our rights. I left and I do not know the outcome. Yes both those young men though they signed up with a branch of service were required to serve the UN they did not want to give up their country or uniform and as far as I know neither did. Some of us are still red blooded Americans. I know where of I speak I was there . What I know and was a part of ... this is just a tip of the iceberg.
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Post by tabitha on Apr 18, 2020 17:35:24 GMT
daw , One thing I noticed in the video, and I'll admit I couldn't watch the whole thing, was their presentation of an obscure document that was basically a historical record of the SARS virus, but it was presented in such a way as to look like a blueprint for future epidemics. The gal in the video is the same one who did another video posted here full of careful editing and slanted/misleading explanations of empty waiting rooms and standby medical facilities that weren't being used. She's got way too much time on her hands. too bad you did not watch the second half. History is always interesting. did you see Walter Cronkite and hillary? and while I am at it, here she is saying pertinent things.
But I may be wrong and that is a perfectly acceptable institution.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2020 18:56:09 GMT
daw , One thing I noticed in the video, and I'll admit I couldn't watch the whole thing, was their presentation of an obscure document that was basically a historical record of the SARS virus, but it was presented in such a way as to look like a blueprint for future epidemics. The gal in the video is the same one who did another video posted here full of careful editing and slanted/misleading explanations of empty waiting rooms and standby medical facilities that weren't being used. She's got way too much time on her hands. too bad you did not watch the second half. History is always interesting. did you see Walter Cronkite and hillary? and while I am at it, here she is saying pertinent things.
But I may be wrong and that is a perfectly acceptable institution.
Cronkite was a .... <fill in the blank with as many inappropriate cuss words as you can> He's the one who started calling Chicago cops "pigs" during the '68 DNC.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 18, 2020 19:02:42 GMT
tabitha, Yes, I've seen the Clinton/Cronkite video, and it was disturbing. In this video she doesn't really say she takes the CFR's advice, just that she gets a lot of input. That's not to downplay Hillary's views on One World Order, but there's a problem with that, and all other conspiracies. The problem is human nature, and the more people involved, the more human nature throws a monkey wrench into the plans. I'm sure the head people at the International Monetary Fund, and the Bank of International Settlements would like very much to control the world's economy, but where they run into a brick wall is in dealing with regimes like China, who have their own plans for the world's economy. The Federal Reserve in this country is a corporation of private banks, each with their own interests first and foremost. Does anyone think the EU is ready to give up their Euro? Despots all over the world are right now struggling to maintain their own power, knowing giving it up wouldn't be pleasant for them. Theories and grandiose plans are great on paper, it's when you get real people involved things start falling apart.
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Post by tabitha on Apr 18, 2020 19:06:13 GMT
Humanity is like an ox with a ring through it's nose.
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