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Post by Ozarks Tom on Jul 4, 2020 1:03:20 GMT
Okay, I've been spray painting most the day, and maybe the fumes are affecting my brain. But, this scenario has been bothering me since February. I've discounted it due to both it's complexity and my recognition that the congruences of events are too unpredictable to be driven by design. Then I reconsidered when I realized anyone with a basic knowledge of statistical probabilities could have foreseen the overall effect of two seemingly unconnected occurrences achieving a commonly wished for goal.
We probably all remember the several discussions here way back in November and December about how the liberals could defeat Donald Trump. The main consensus was that they'd have to crash the better than good economy he was presiding over. Whether he's really responsible for it was up for debate, but it was what it was. If there was a way to blame Trump for an economic collapse, even though it would ruin millions, they'd do it if they could just find a way.
As to the statistical possibilities, given the number of black men killed by police each year, it was only a matter of time, and not very long, before those who were looking for an egregious example occur. Adding enough up front money to organize a Marxist group like BLM to wait, then explode, was sort of like figuring you'd have to save a bit to get your teeth cleaned every six months. It's going to happen, have the resources in place.
Okay, here's where the weird thoughts come into play.
Let's say our current situation isn't due to a cosmic roll of the dice. Let's say the Chinese communists were tired of seeing their sweetheart deals with our corporations going South due to trade restrictions Trump was putting on them. Let's also say they've been our sworn enemies since the beginning of the Mao era, and nothing's changed.
Is it too far fetched to consider they'd, in concert with other powerful international players like George Soros, develop a virus that might kill hundreds of thousands of their own people, but spread it across the globe as part of a further conspiracy? After all, in the 70 years of Communist China's history they've purposely killed over a hundred million of their own people. Especially if it was a foretold conclusion it would destroy our economy.
What if, like in boxing, you throw several jabs at your opponent's face, setting them up for the real punch from your strong arm?
What I mean by that is the Covid-19 virus set us up for the statistically inevitable punch of the rise of BLM, Antifa, and their true believers.
Most conspiracy theories I discount. Too complex with too many participants. This one stays with me due to the sequence of events that come to a common goal, while seeming to be unconnected. Starting the pandemic wasn't complicated, foreseeing the violent unrest and its growth wasn't either. The spike in virus cases wasn't rocket surgery, infect the population, then send them to the streets, what else could happen?
The destruction of our economy, and civil discourse is being completed as we watch.
Are our enemies smarter than us? No, but we refuse to believe they're our enemies because we're "nice". There's no way to prove my suspicions, but looking back on what's happened doesn't disprove them either.
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Post by Jolly on Jul 4, 2020 1:12:46 GMT
You may not be right, but it would make a great book...
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Post by farmrbrown on Jul 4, 2020 1:51:55 GMT
I've considered all of the above with the same suspicion and haven't reached a decisive conclusion either .......... and maybe never will. The stirring up of the BLM is easy to believe given the absolute utter hatred that's been seething in half the country since the 1st Wednesday in November 2016. And the main reason I haven't bought into the idea of an intentional virus release is because our Cold War enemies are extremely good at that stuff and if they really wanted to use it as a weapon, I don't think many of us would be around to even discuss it right now, if ya get my drift. However I can easily believe that once the Genie was out of the bottle, everyone with an axe to grind came running to amplify the devastation. They may not all have the same agenda (to defeat Trump) but as the old saying goes......"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." I never liked that one and don't much agree with it as a wise tactic, but plenty of people seem to favor it, I've noticed.
About the farthest I've considered as plausible is that this stuff DID have some planning and intentional actions behind it but they were counting on our own stupidity to make it succeed.
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Post by BrewDaddy on Jul 4, 2020 2:54:03 GMT
Righteous BrewDaddy likes to think that regardless of what my eyes and ears tell me, that there isn't so much evil in anyone or people that would try to perpetrate such a global calamity... after all, when the USA sneezes, EVERYBODY else catches a cold. Bringing us down brings everybody else down.... tens of thousands are dying, more will die in the future, the economic downturn kills downstream over time... Occams Razor... things just transpired the way they did because.... stuff happens....
Reality BrewDaddy says: Ammo up.
Whether or not your premise is correct doesn't matter. The Perfect Storm (TPS) has a vote in how all this turns out, and it may be that TPS has lots and lots and lots of votes......
Brew
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Post by themotherhen on Jul 4, 2020 3:02:50 GMT
I have had a dream, twice now, about a new virus that is much more virulent and deadly than any seen lately. People refuse to lockdown again, causing infection rates to skyrocket and overwhelming the hospitals. In the last dream a newscaster is visibly ill on screen and collapses, then the Emergency Broadcast System beeps. Ozarks Tom, your idea has merit, it isn't just the paint fumes 😂. David should probably pour drinks for all of us though.
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Post by solargeek on Jul 4, 2020 4:00:40 GMT
Not paint fumes. Thought about it often. You said it more succinctly than I could.
Garden as if your (&others) life depends on it, get right with friends and family, pray more, and stay in cash. Worry about bank and crop failures.
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Post by Txsteader on Jul 4, 2020 10:06:53 GMT
Of that you can be sure, IMO. Only the fools in Congress, who have been making the trade deals, think/thought otherwise.
It does make one suspect that all that's happening was by design. Case in point - racial oppression and system racism plainly do NOT exist in this country. If they did, Barack Obama would never have been President, professional sports players (which includes others besides blacks) wouldn't be some of the highest paid people in the country, there wouldn't be black professors, doctors, millionaires & billionaires, etc. etc. etc. But thanks to colleges & unis that have been infiltrated, we have at least 2 generations that have been brainwashed into believing something other than what's right in front of their eyes.
To that point, I couldn't agree more w/ Reality Brewdaddy's assessment.
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Jul 4, 2020 11:28:30 GMT
Our enemies may not necessarily be smarter than us, but they are certainly more evil...
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Post by daw on Jul 4, 2020 22:59:00 GMT
But what they don’t realize or refuse to consider... If they can tear Donald Trump down ... they have lost the battle and will go down harder. They will lose everything and more.
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Post by farmrbrown on Jul 5, 2020 18:55:59 GMT
I have had a dream, twice now, about a new virus that is much more virulent and deadly than any seen lately. People refuse to lockdown again, causing infection rates to skyrocket and overwhelming the hospitals. In the last dream a newscaster is visibly ill on screen and collapses, then the Emergency Broadcast System beeps. Ozarks Tom , your idea has merit, it isn't just the paint fumes 😂. David should probably pour drinks for all of us though. Your dream is true and coming soon. Just remember that the orders given by the governments of this world are NOT coming from God and be aware who IS giving these orders and what happens to those who follow them.
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Post by tabitha on Jul 5, 2020 20:40:38 GMT
check this on Kassandra's take.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 23:31:39 GMT
Tom I agree. I think that is all very carefully orchestrated. I listened to a book back when obama was president that spoke of his hatred for America and any colonial power. I don’t recall all of it now but basically if said that he was working to sow the seeds of our destruction. He also said that he was going to “fundamentally change America”. Never really understood that until recently. Look at all the young ppl who are rioting. Early 20s right? Gues who was President during most of their education? Yep. Guess who changed the education system and oversaw it becoming more liberal, who over saw the parental unit, morality and family values decline? Yep again, obama. He fundamental changed this country by liberalizing and indoctrinating the youth making them hate conservative values, therefore America. Rioting and destruction is now acceptable. Look at what they’re done to Richmond. The ignorant ass of a mayor is protecting them and refuses to have the graffiti and filth cleaned up. Time to withdraw, protect your home, family and livestock. Prepare, for the time grows near.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Jul 15, 2020 2:28:37 GMT
Yep, I believe in coincidences, but some things are foreseeable. Take for instance a group of 25 people, what would you think the odds are of two of them having the same day/month of birth? Well, I've tested that game several times, and it never fails that out of that just 25 people a least two will indeed have the same day/month of birth.
What I'm saying is some things are predictable, including government and societies' responses to varying stimuli. Put the right series of stimuli in place, and watch it happen. Individual responses will vary, but large entities are predictable as the sun coming up.
We have been, and are being played. The players can only create the chaos, but not the outcome. What happens after depends on the inner strength and resolve of the most determined people.
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Post by laurazone5 on Jul 15, 2020 15:49:36 GMT
Please enjoy my Tin Foil Talk for the day.
Covid is a man created, man release biological weapon. Why? 1. To eliminate as many 60+. (a) They cost too much. (b) They vote for Trump, they remember the Reagan years. 2. Psychological warfare. 3. Wreck the economy so the election can be 'swung'. 4. Mail in votes so the election can be 'swung'
When we as a country pulled up our bootstraps after the lock down, showed what we are made of, started getting things back on track:
1. They murdered George Floyd. 2. They burned the cities, further wrecking economies, creating HUGE divisions. 3. They tried Murder Hornets 4. They created "change shortages" 5. Mask vs No Mask, creating more divisions and anger.
But that's not enough.
1. EVERYONE has the Rona now. It's everywhere. 2. Places are shutting down right and left. 3. Schools are closing again 4. We are on our way back to a full lock down.
Mentally draining people. Stripping people's souls to nothing, so they will fall for anything, to make it stop.
Hitler much?
We are toast.
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Post by sawmilljim on Jul 16, 2020 2:32:23 GMT
Please enjoy my Tin Foil Talk for the day. Covid is a man created, man release biological weapon. Why? 1. To eliminate as many 60+. (a) They cost too much. (b) They vote for Trump, they remember the Reagan years. 2. Psychological warfare. 3. Wreck the economy so the election can be 'swung'. 4. Mail in votes so the election can be 'swung' When we as a country pulled up our bootstraps after the lock down, showed what we are made of, started getting things back on track: 1. They murdered George Floyd. 2. They burned the cities, further wrecking economies, creating HUGE divisions. 3. They tried Murder Hornets 4. They created "change shortages" 5. Mask vs No Mask, creating more divisions and anger. But that's not enough. 1. EVERYONE has the Rona now. It's everywhere. 2. Places are shutting down right and left. 3. Schools are closing again 4. We are on our way back to a full lock down. Mentally draining people. Stripping people's souls to nothing, so they will fall for anything, to make it stop. Hitler much? We are toast. What part of that is tin foil hat ? Most of that is what I said from the start but I always keep my tin hat on the ready ! I still say is also training for future events !
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