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Post by farmgirl on Mar 7, 2024 18:52:33 GMT
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Mar 7, 2024 23:33:11 GMT
sunny225, Oh, we've all read the stories, written by anti-Israel authors, and heard the speeches by antisemetic politicians, and they all have one thing in common - Jew hatred. To apply the word genocide to what's happening in Gaza is a complete misunderstanding of the word. Genocide is the violent elimination of an entire group of people, be they ethnic/religious/racial. Hitler did true genocide, murdering every Jew/Slav/Gypsy he could get his hands on. What Israel is in no form or fashion genocide, but what Hamas and other Islamic terrorist groups have in mind definitely is. You don't have to believe me, just listen to their favorite slogan: "From The River To The Sea". That doesn't mean a two-state solution, that means the deaths of any Jews from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, and they're not kidding. There are two types of warfare. One, conventional warfare of nearly set pieces fighting logistical battles for territory and the elimination of opposing forces within that territory. The other is called "unconventional warfare" in which one force is basically militia embedded within a civilian population, and must be rooted out on a block by block, house by house, tunnel by tunnel effort. The second is what's happening in Gaza right now. Who has run Gaza since 2007? The elected Hamas. No "occupation", they were free to do as they wished. And what did they wish? Assuming the rockets built mainly from water pipes that could have brought water to the Gazans, instead, the indiscriminate killing of Jewish civilians in Israel. Remember, there was a "cease-fire" in place on October 6th. It's hard to rationalize Israel as an "apartheid State" when 20% of its population is Muslim, and many of its governing body, the Knesset is Muslim. Lies, distortions, and misuse of language to paint Israel as a murderous state bent on killing Arabs are just that, lies. Since well before 1948 Jews in the Middle East have fought for their existence, not domination. Did you know that the majority of the Muslims in the Middle East were proud members or supporters of Hitler's genocide of Jews? It matters little how many pundits and outright propagandists, including many national leaders demonize Israel for defending the right of its citizens to live. When you get to the very basics, there's a very small nation, surrounded by sworn enemies, fighting for its very existence.
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Post by solargeek on Mar 8, 2024 0:49:20 GMT
Ozarks Tom, Kudos! Amazingly concise, well-said summary of the facts. My BA was International Relations - graduated in December 1980. Just before The Ayatolla Khomeni (mispelling intentional) took our citizens hostage for a very long time 444 days. Just after a Kibutz was taken over by the Arabs, and more followed. This has been going on forever and will continue due to the Muslim murder mindset. (Love alliteration)
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Post by Tricky Grama on Mar 8, 2024 13:46:58 GMT
War is hell they say. I think Israel is finally gonna do what it should've long ago. Think of how WWII was 'run'. Did we or any of our allies warn civilians to get out? Or give them aid? Sorry, its awful & its how its done.
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 8, 2024 14:34:03 GMT
War is hell they say. I think Israel is finally gonna do what it should've long ago. Think of how WWII was 'run'. Did we or any of our allies warn civilians to get out? Or give them aid? Sorry, its awful & its how its done. I think Israel must hold the world’s record for announcing what they’re going to do, when they’re going to do it, issuing multiple warnings for civilians to get out before they attack certain areas, giving aid and supplies to civilians when they know one way or another Hamas is going to end up with most/all of it….can’t think of any other country in history who’s run a “war” quite like that. Doing so must account for a lot of failures, not to mention increased injuries and loss of life to their own soldiers. I can’t imagine what it must be like for Israeli soldiers heading into a ground battle knowing their superiors/government has already warned Hamas where they are and when they’re arriving. 😧 Or how it would feel watching your friends die after being ambushed due to such warnings. Hamas is beyond evil. They think nothing of loss to their own people… even their own families if it means they can kill one more of their enemies. They will gladly put their families in harm’s way or send their own children out to be killed if it means killing the enemy. Mothers and grandmothers will sacrifice themselves (sometimes willingly, sometimes under force) to stab, shoot or blow up their enemies. I absolutely hate seeing innocents die in war, but many of these people are not innocents, they are active participants. Except for the children, and even they are brainwashed almost from birth to hate. But Hamas will send them out to be killed just for the goal of gaining sympathy from the world who can’t believe any culture could be so evil. A recent Palestinian poll showed at least 90% of Gazans support Hamas. *Just want to clarify my post is not aimed at anyone on this forum, it’s just the way I see it. Each of us has to go by our conscience.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Mar 8, 2024 21:04:53 GMT
The loss of life (someone else's of course) isn't problem for Islamic radicals, with plenty of examples to prove it. Remember during the Iran/Iraq war Iran sending children into minefields to clear the way for their more important assets, the troops? A religion that not only condones, but encourages the deaths of innocents, promising those innocents will go immediately to paradise is an evil death cult.
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 9, 2024 0:13:47 GMT
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 9, 2024 10:27:41 GMT
“Khaled Abu Toameh, an Arab Muslim, is a veteran award-winning journalist who has been covering Palestinian affairs for nearly three decades. He studied at Hebrew University and began his career as a reporter by working for a PLO-affiliated newspaper in Jerusalem. Abu Toameh currently works for the international media, serving as the 'eyes and ears' of foreign journalists in the West Bank and Gaza Strip…” www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20400/hamas-palestinian-civilians-terrorists
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Post by farmrbrown on Mar 9, 2024 21:02:03 GMT
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Mar 11, 2024 17:23:20 GMT
Bibi to Slow Joe, stuff it!!
It's probably on the first page of this thread that I predicted, after reading Netanyahu's biography, that he wouldn't back off an inch from his duty as a patriot and destroy Hamas down to the last terrorist they can find. Not that I'm some great judge of character, but knowing Bibi's background in special forces, his participation in both widely known raids freeing hostages and unpublicized raids across borders, the only conclusion a person could come to is he's one brave and determined man.
Biden is succumbing to his leftist base, with no regard for the future security of Israel's people. A prime candidate for the Hypocrites Hall of Shame.
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 17, 2024 22:58:22 GMT
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 17, 2024 23:34:18 GMT
Saw that early this morning. So very sad that they’re forced to eat the disgusting food our soldiers have to eat. 😢
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Mar 17, 2024 23:50:53 GMT
If you go back to the post where the guy shows a bag of MRE and throws it into the dumpster, it's the same guy. He's also the same guy who's been many videos either bandaged laying in a hospital bed with a hose up his nose, or in some other form of dire distress like laying on a stretcher covered in blood. About as phony as you can get, but he's all over the internet showing how terrible the Israelis are. You'd think they'd find another "victim", but so far I watched probably 6-8 videos of this guy.
ETA: I'd be more that happy to put this poor suffering man out of his misery.
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 17, 2024 23:55:29 GMT
If you go back to the post where the guy shows a bag of MRE and throws it into the dumpster, it's the same guy. He's also the same guy who's been many videos either bandaged laying in a hospital bed with a hose up his nose, or in some other form of dire distress like laying on a stretcher covered in blood. About as phony as you can get, but he's all over the internet showing how terrible the Israelis are. You'd think they'd find another "victim", but so far I watched probably 6-8 videos of this guy. Good catch. He looked familiar but I couldn’t place him. Was watching videos one day and saw at least 3 videos of a little girl, 3-4 yrs old, being rescued 3 times from the rubble by 3 different men.
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 25, 2024 2:35:33 GMT
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