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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 21, 2017 23:52:59 GMT
I've always been curious how these organizations find and recruit so many co-conspirators who have no wives or children, parents or siblings. They're obviously given psychological testing to make sure they're psychopaths willing to kill or injure millions with no qualms. If there weren't sites like "Global Research" (a Russian propaganda organ) and humansarefree.com we'd never know there were that many orphaned, single, psychopaths around. Most are given lots of money others visit Seth Rich. Do you really believe the rest of the world has the market of all the psychopaths as you call them cornered . Might check out those involved in the planning of Operation Northwoods . Was Major General Charles W. Sweeney a orphan ? How soon we forget just how vicious humans really are might take a real look at Major General William Tecumseh Sherman . But getting more recent do you think the author of the statement ( We came, we saw, he died ) really cared about the who where or how many if it accomplished that person's agenda ? And if there were no Julian Assuages people would be less informed and dumber than they are now, if possible .
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 22, 2017 1:10:43 GMT
For those that never knew a true psychopath or just out right mean person here is a book in which I grew up not far from this guy John (Lucky ) Fry . Growing up his mother was a wonder a great person his dad Pete a little rough around the edges his brother Jimmy was my age . Those days John was called Johnny Carl . It is said the authorities had a suspicion of Johnny Carl providing several other folks with cement overshoes . Coroner's report says Jimmy killed himself sitting in a small sports car with a shotgun ,I don't think they really cared one way or the other . My suspicion is either his brother or a rival gang member from Detroit offed him . Every time Jimmy got in to deep in Detroit he would head South till things cooled off. Few years prior to Jimmy's death I told him to try hard never stopping by my house when he hit town . I knew him well enough to know that he might kill anyone that crossed him but never himself . Ah I forgot the book the Dr's widow had wrote . I have not read the book. I tried hard not to know much about those boys after they moved to Detroit but knew some their kin real well that kept me up to date Masquerade thelisalog.blogs.com/the_lisa_log/2006/01/masquerade.html
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Post by tabitha on Nov 22, 2017 1:36:30 GMT
I'm no expert. Maybe those guys know what they are talking about. Maybe worth listening to. which reminds me, may have been these guys, but a few years ago I listened to some scientists testing snow on Mt. Shasta.
Lets see, many years ago I read a book by a Japanese guy named Fukuoka. Forgot his first name. He worked in a lab in the thirties. It was not later. I remember being astonished reading that he and buddies would mix different 'bugs' to see what happened, and then destroy their creations. I was young and vulnerable and thought, they can do that? Maybe he was lying. but you can possible get the book at the library. I think it was called ' The one straw revolution'. (I don't think it was the last straw. But some things seem to be.)
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 22, 2017 1:44:38 GMT
I'm no expert. Maybe those guys know what they are talking about. Maybe worth listening to. which reminds me, may have been these guys, but a few years ago I listened to some scientists testing snow on Mt. Shasta. Yea what get me is when they make a checkerboard pattern that stays for a while ,those I have seen.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 22, 2017 2:06:54 GMT
I've always been curious how these organizations find and recruit so many co-conspirators who have no wives or children, parents or siblings. They're obviously given psychological testing to make sure they're psychopaths willing to kill or injure millions with no qualms. If there weren't sites like "Global Research" (a Russian propaganda organ) and humansarefree.com we'd never know there were that many orphaned, single, psychopaths around. Most are given lots of money others visit Seth Rich. Do you really believe the rest of the world has the market of all the psychopaths as you call them cornered . Might check out those involved in the planning of Operation Northwoods . Was Major General Charles W. Sweeney a orphan ? How soon we forget just how vicious humans really are might take a real look at Major General William Tecumseh Sherman . But getting more recent do you think the author of the statement ( We came, we saw, he died ) really cared about the who where or how many if it accomplished that person's agenda ? And if there were no Julian Assuages people would be less informed and dumber than they are now, if possible . You do realize how many tens of thousands would have to be involved with the chemtrails BS over the decades, don't you? Sherman wasn't a conspiracy, he was a well documented man. Conspiracy theorists keep going back to "Operation Northwoods", but it never happened, and is now the totem for every off the wall theory going. Your quote of Hillary is just that, a quote of a verifiably evil woman, no conspiracy there. Yes, there's no limit to human depravity, even to a large scale, but keep in mind human self interest dictates actions. The initial thrust of this thread deals with chemtrails, do you really think very large number of people would deliberately poison themselves and their loved ones? Or, do you suppose some paranoid person sitting in his lawn chair 50 years ago looked up and thought he was being sprayed with a mind control drug? Others overly suspicious of the government, most also needing an explanation for their aberrant thoughts, jumped at the idea, that it wasn't their fault their thinking wasn't quite on beam. I've never said we shouldn't be wary of government, at any level, but to think everything is out to get us carries distrust to the extreme.
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 22, 2017 3:18:06 GMT
Ever here of compartmentalizing a project you really think the pilot knows exactly what he is spraying ? You really think the farmer spraying his field really knows understands or cares what chemicals he is spraying ? No results is what the farmer wants side effect on water run off is not his main concern. The pilot might be told he is doing the old fashion cloud seeding experiment after all his pay depends on flying not chemical analist. You think people in this country that pop pills everyday know a lot of the side effect from them are worst than the disease ? . The Govt. don't need to be out to get us they accomplished that job long ago, some just haven't realized it yet . Few even care as long as they are provided with food and a circus others are fighting just to pay their thirty year debts up before being tossed. This country saw the Constitution destroyed long ago but are just to blind or refuse to be educated enough to know it. Moral codes are subjective. The elite now call the peasants deplorables to their face.
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Post by DEKE on Nov 22, 2017 21:39:09 GMT
Ever here of compartmentalizing a project you really think the pilot knows exactly what he is spraying ? You mean those United Airline pilots? You don't think it would ever occur to them to ask why they are spraying anything? Yes, I really think the farmer cares. He's feeding friends, family, a country, and the world. Why do you think so many people are so uncaring and downright evil? And you don't think the pilot would ever discuss this with airline personnel, why if it is only some cloud seeding experiment it is never discussed in the news, or company literature as an income stream? You really don't understand how big business operates. Let's do an experiment right here. Who among us if we were a passenger jet airline pilot wouldn't discuss the topic if we saw that we were spraying something while flying across country? Who among us could have their silence bought if we knew we were spraying deadly or mind altering substances? I would say something and if I thought some gov't agent was trying to silence me, I would figure out a way to get a note to the press. You wouldn't? I assume you can't be bought like that. Am I wrong? All that is rambling and disjointed. I don't understand how it applies to anything within this topic.
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 23, 2017 16:52:41 GMT
It's Finally Admitted: 'We're Living in a Test Already'
Carpmintilized ?
6 Secret Cities That Prove We Don't Know What's Really Going On There are many more !
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 23, 2017 18:14:02 GMT
sawmilljim, We're supposed to be surprised governments have secret defense facilities? Or course, Los Alamos wasn't much of a secret, what with a half dozen Soviet spies working there.
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 23, 2017 22:06:36 GMT
sawmilljim , We're supposed to be surprised governments have secret defense facilities? Or course, Los Alamos wasn't much of a secret, what with a half dozen Soviet spies working there. Wifes x fil grew up at Oak Ridge I knew him to but he never mentioned Boris or Natasha being there . I just thought it was interesting but there are still large cities in third world countries all new but deserted .
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 24, 2017 0:17:21 GMT
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 24, 2017 2:39:38 GMT
Have heard it said some leaks were intentional as they gave out false information. I also remember my X wife's aunt worked in a amno plant one person installed one part ,they never knew what it was for or what it went on, good chance the last part installed that person may never really knew what the object was either. But yes I am sure someone somewhere was spying all they could. I talked to truck drivers in later years that delivered goods at that plant ,even then they never left the way they entered and were searched thoroughly . I may of told this before but a buddy of mine delivered a supposedly empty aluminum box to a military fort . This box was about 8'x 14' max sitting on a 48' trailer ,nothing else allowed on it . Well he and I were cracking jokes about opening it to see just how empty it really was . When he got to the delivery site they said they had no time to unload it at that time so he goes to a truck stop for the night . Next morning he said he awoke to lots of military vehicles everywhere so they escort him back to the site and he asks if they removed that tag screwed to his trailer floor ,he said they immediately unloaded that box and stuck it in a building with armed guards at the door. When he left the fort he said he was three or for miles away when a message popped up on his phone that it was now released . He said he thought he just was in a dead zone but they had blocked his phone totally . I told him yes and I bet somewhere was a recording of us talking about opening that empty box too. Another good one was a buddy of mine hauling one manali envelope stapled to the floor of a 48' box trailer halfway across the US. The shipper ordered a certain type, color and size trailer too. Or the one about him hauling a load of pennies and getting off the route they provide him with .
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Post by meandtk on Nov 25, 2017 3:46:54 GMT
I don't know the purpose of chemtrails. I do know that I once spent over an hour one night, driving under a full moon, watching them fly their back and forth, criss-cross pattern. I also noticed that they are normally followed by a weather change. Do they cause the change, or are they done for some reason because a front is moving in. I've nothing definite to give. I know they are real. I know it disturbs me. I know no more than that.
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Nov 27, 2017 3:37:05 GMT
You really think the farmer spraying his field really knows understands or cares what chemicals he is spraying ? No results is what the farmer wants side effect on water run off is not his main concern. So am I to assume that you believe that DDT and Roundup are both bad for the environment? And, that all of the farmers that get online saying the environmentalists are wrong with regards to DDT and Roundup have not the foggiest idea about which they speak?
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