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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 27, 2022 19:25:18 GMT
Does anyone know offhand whether chicken or rabbit poop would be the better fertilizer for gardens? One advantage to the rabbit poop is that it can be used immediately while chicken poop has to be aged. But is one better than the other?
Would rabbit poop go further used as rabbit “tea” vs just using as is?
Just thinking of possibilities in case there is a possibility to have even a few in the future. Would probably not want both. Rabbits are quiet, IMHO are easier to care for…and I like rabbits better. 🙂 But wondering about the fertilizer production aspect.
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Post by paisley2 on Mar 27, 2022 19:56:51 GMT
Rabbit Search domain whyrabbits.comhttps://whyrabbits.com › rabbit-poop-for-fertilizer
Benefits of Rabbit Poop for Fertilizer Rabbit poop has many benefits when using it as fertilizer. It can often be the more superior option to cow, horse, and chicken manure. Rabbit Poop Is Rich in Nutrients First, rabbit poop contains high volumes of elements that plants need to thrive. It's rich in: Nitrogen Phosphorus Potassium
How to Use Rabbit Poop as Fertilizer - MorningChores
Search domain morningchores.comhttps://morningchores.com › rabbit-fertilizer
Rabbit poop in your compost tea is another fabulous way to make fertilizer. Here's how to make a rabbit compost tea: Place 2 cups of rabbit droppings into a 5-gallon bucket. Fill the bucket with water. Place a lid over the bucket. Put in a warm sunny spot. Stir once or twice a day. Let the rabbit manure dissolve over a period of 3-5 days.
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 27, 2022 20:53:51 GMT
Thanks, paisley2. So I did a bit of research. Sounds like rabbit poop may be as much as 4x as rich as chicken poop. Plus you can use the rabbit poop to get into vermicomposting as well. Something I’ve never tried but have always wanted to. I’m really hoping I might be able to dabble a bit in homesteading yet, albeit in a micro mini fashion. Maybe only a couple rabbits. Still, that’s something. I figure with only a couple, it would be easy enough to set up automatic feeders, and a few heated water bottles would be affordable. So if I had days I couldn’t get out, rabbit chores wouldn’t fall on DD. If I kick the bucket, a couple rabbits should be easy enough for her to give away. |
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Post by Billy G on Mar 27, 2022 21:11:01 GMT
wildhorseluvr, I don't have an answer to which is better but either one is better than none if fertilizers get scarce. I took the one-n-done approach and overseeded my yard with Dutch White clover from the granary, and made a couple of brush piles to give the wild rabbits some cover last year. They've returned the favor by leaving free piles of fertilizer all over the place. I bought a stand-up dustpan and a kiddie leaf rake to collect the pellets, then I dry them in a cement mixing pan and store in a 5 gallon bucket to side dress anything and everything. The deer come in for the clover too in the spring. No need for me to feed, water or make cages....the poop's free for the picking. (I know you're moving but wanted to toss this out for post-move consideration.)
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 27, 2022 21:21:42 GMT
Thanks, Billy G. Love hearing different means of tackling problems. At this point I have no idea if I’ll end up in an HOA community (horrors) or maybe a quiet little place on a 1/2 acre or so on the edge of town…maybe with a deer population. If the latter, I’ll have some options. If the former, obviously chickens would be out but I’m hoping perhaps I could still do some “stealth homesteading”. 😁 |
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Post by Billy G on Mar 27, 2022 22:39:13 GMT
HOA's can be a horror but they can be overtaken by sane, rational people if enough have had enough. I bought into one years ago, the developer and his minions bordered on evil once the 'we're your buddies' shtick wore off. But enough of the common sense and decency folks got fed up and took over the board. TBH the amount of politicking required to foment change will turn most people's stomachs, but once changed things will likely never go back to the dark side. To anyone reading and dealing with such a situation fight the good fight, it can be won!
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Mar 27, 2022 23:25:07 GMT
We have two compost piles, one for sheep and rabbit manure, the other for chicken droppings. We use the sheep/rabbit pile as needed, while the chicken pile is left for 6 months or more. One drawback to the chicken composts is we use pine shavings in the coop, and those have to decompose also. Thanks paisley2, for researching that information. I guess we've been doing it right. We've never made "compost tea", but since we get a wheelbarrow full of rabbit poop every week that's worth a try. |
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 27, 2022 23:52:39 GMT
Billy G, DD & DSil live in an HOA community and it’s really pretty decent. I attribute that to 3 factors…DSil was president most of the time they’ve been there, most of the people have common interests (all pilots and many veterans), and DSil supplies most of the equipment and does most of the work required. In other words, not too many members care to complain. 😁 *Some* HOAs work for some people. I’ve seen the other side too, and don’t ever care to be stuck in that kind of neighborhood. Nor do I want to be drawn into all the drama that the “Karens” can stir up. I need a quiet life and don’t want conflict with some busybody driving around the neighborhood looking for some perceived infraction of the rules. Give me a one room cabin far away from people where I can putter around with a few chickens or rabbits and let the grass grow over 2” without getting sued. Which is why HOAs make me shudder.
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Post by DEKE on Mar 28, 2022 0:47:06 GMT
We've never made "compost tea", You should definitely give it a try. But I suggest at least 2 sugars to get the flavor just right. |
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Post by farmrbrown on Mar 28, 2022 0:55:28 GMT
It's all about the chemistry but still fairly simple. The 3 numbers on a bag of fertilizer are represent the ratio of the 3 chemical ingredients. Nitrogen - Phosphorous - Potash (potassium salts) Rabbit poop is good and safe to use - right out of the can so to speak, lol. 2 - 1 -1 Chicken is good when you want more nitrogen like for your lawn grass. 3 - 2 - 1 (approx) www.sunset.com/garden/garden-basics/crash-course-fertilizers |
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 28, 2022 2:44:31 GMT
It's all about the chemistry but still fairly simple. The 3 numbers on a bag of fertilizer are represent the ratio of the 3 chemical ingredients. Nitrogen - Phosphorous - Potash (potassium salts) Rabbit poop is good and safe to use - right out of the can so to speak, lol. 2 - 1 -1 Chicken is good when you want more nitrogen like for your lawn grass. 3 - 2 - 1 (approx) www.sunset.com/garden/garden-basics/crash-course-fertilizersHmm. Did a lot more reading and although the info on a few websites varies, the majority show chicken manure as 1.1 0.80 0.50 and rabbit manure as 2.40 1.40 0.60 The numbers seem to indicate rabbit poop is superior to chicken poop. It appears that rabbit poop has more nitrogen than that of most farm animals, including chicken. The fact that rabbit poop can be used immediately and rabbits don’t annoy the neighbors by being noisy is a big plus. |
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 28, 2022 2:49:12 GMT
Don’t know how I keep starting weird discussions on here…rat traps, rabbit poop, manure tea…😊
Maybe I really was born in a barn.
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Post by paisley2 on Mar 28, 2022 3:10:49 GMT
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Post by farmrbrown on Mar 28, 2022 3:21:25 GMT
It's all about the chemistry but still fairly simple. The 3 numbers on a bag of fertilizer are represent the ratio of the 3 chemical ingredients. Nitrogen - Phosphorous - Potash (potassium salts) Rabbit poop is good and safe to use - right out of the can so to speak, lol. 2 - 1 -1 Chicken is good when you want more nitrogen like for your lawn grass. 3 - 2 - 1 (approx) www.sunset.com/garden/garden-basics/crash-course-fertilizersHmm. Did a lot more reading and although the info on a few websites varies, the majority show chicken manure as 1.1 0.80 0.50 and rabbit manure as 2.40 1.40 0.60 The numbers seem to indicate rabbit poop is superior to chicken poop. It appears that rabbit poop has more nitrogen than that of most farm animals, including chicken. The fact that rabbit poop can be used immediately and rabbits don’t annoy the neighbors by being noisy is a big plus. I saw all that too although what I didn't say only confirms that rabbit poo is still better to use than chicken poo. Those numbers I saw on chicken N-P-K contradict everything I heard from chicken farmers when I was growing up. I was expecting to see something like 10-2-2 and it may be they tested dry poop and/or poop that was separated from the pee. IDK? But we were warned that straight fresh chicken $#!+ could "burn" your plants due to the high concentration of nitrogen in it. Birds don't have bladders and all that ammonia waste is high in nitrogen. poultry.extension.org/articles/poultry-anatomy/avian-digestive-system/ |
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Post by farmrbrown on Mar 28, 2022 3:38:50 GMT
It's ok paisley2, dinners over and the kids have gone to bed.  The link I first posted explains the basics and it's hard to give the right answer to which poop is "best" without knowing the soil conditions, what you're growing and what stage of growth it's in. Here are the basics. Nitrogen makes plants grow, which they need at the start. Phosphorous makes them bloom K(Potash) affects many things in a plant...... Increases water retention Improves drought resistance and increases root growth Produce grain rich in starch Creates disease resistance in plants Increases plants’ protein content Prevents energy losses and reduces respiration But like your own nutrition, it isn't the same for everybody. |
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