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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 30, 2023 15:18:16 GMT
I've yet to hear a legitimate or compelling reason to get rid of cash in favor of a Central Bank Digital Currency system. The only rationalization I've heard is it's supposed to eliminate "illegal" transactions like money laundering by drug cartels. That's pretty weak tea to justify a total disruption of our economy
We all know why it's being done, total power over our every transaction, big and small. Once they have that control, they can implement their Marxist policies on everything from climate change to fossil fuel elimination with just a few keystrokes.
The only way to describe this is a "Digital Mark of the Beast".
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Post by farmrbrown on Apr 30, 2023 19:09:25 GMT
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Post by woolybear on May 1, 2023 14:04:21 GMT
Egads can anyone offer a toolongdidn'tread TL'DR version?? Trying to read all that caused my mind to wander and go "squirrel" on anything and everything.
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Post by BrewDaddy on May 1, 2023 22:53:02 GMT
Egads can anyone offer a toolongdidn'tread TL'DR version?? Trying to read all that caused my mind to wander and go "squirrel" on anything and everything. The robot said: Human: summarize what this means: slaynews.com/news/biden-advances-plans-americans-no-longer-own-money/
AI: Joe Biden is advancing plans to allow Americans to no longer own their money. The plans involve a payment system that would automatically deposit funds into American households based on income and expense levels, allowing them to spend their money without owning it. This could have a significant impact on consumer spending and the U.S. economy. bd
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Post by Ozarks Tom on May 2, 2023 12:08:34 GMT
woolybear , Bottom line? The government would be in control of your every penny, and at a whim (if you're not on their "approved" list), deny access to anything, including life's necessities with just a keystroke. The government's IT people aren't necessarily the best and brightest, otherwise they wouldn't be working for the government. But they'll design a digital system they'll claim is foolproof and secure (remember the fiasco of the Obamacare system?) Sharp hackers will tear it apart and walk away will digital billions. The entire premise has nothing to do with stopping illegal transactions, it's about control over the population down to what you eat, where you go, and whether your politics (they already know your politics) are "correct" enough (social credit score ala communist China) to live a barely free life.
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Post by woolybear on May 2, 2023 13:39:35 GMT
No wonder physical silver is hard to find, everyone is snapping it up.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on May 3, 2023 2:00:12 GMT
A rather long read, but worth the time.
One thing the article mentions is the possibility of an EMP (Electronic Magnetic Pulse) which is basically a nuclear explosion several hundred miles above earth that fries all micro-circuits instantaneously. If we were on a CBDC system every digital dollar we supposedly had would vanish in less than the blink of an eye, never to return. An EMP isn't such a stretch, the technology has been around for decades, ever since they exploded a nuclear device in the Pacific around '52 and put out the majority of lights in Hawaii.
Another version of an EMP is a CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) from the sun. Our biggest recorded one was in 1859 called the Carrington Event. It set telegraph stations afire and melted telegraph wires. About three weeks ago there was a CME on the sun facing away from the earth, several magnitudes the Carrington Event. Basically, it's not whether we'll get another sizable CME, it's a guaranteed when.
The article basically deals with all the superfluous things like transgenders/climate change/politics that are distracting us from the real danger facing up, the push for CBDC, the real hill to die on.
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Post by farmrbrown on May 3, 2023 2:17:50 GMT
Or how about a few dozen "mini EMP's" coming from a few stray balloons overhead as they meander from CA to NY?
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Post by solargeek on May 3, 2023 3:12:30 GMT
A rather long read, but worth the time. One thing the article mentions is the possibility of an EMP (Electronic Magnetic Pulse) which is basically a nuclear explosion several hundred miles above earth that fries all micro-circuits instantaneously. If we were on a CBDC system every digital dollar we supposedly had would vanish in less than the blink of an eye, never to return. An EMP isn't such a stretch, the technology has been around for decades, ever since they exploded a nuclear device in the Pacific around '52 and put out the majority of lights in Hawaii. Another version of an EMP is a CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) from the sun. Our biggest recorded one was in 1859 called the Carrington Event. It set telegraph stations afire and melted telegraph wires. About three weeks ago there was a CME on the sun facing away from the earth, several magnitudes the Carrington Event. Basically, it's not whether we'll another sizable CME, it's a guaranteed when. The article basically deals with all the superfluous things like transgenders/climate change/politics that are distracting us from the real danger facing up, the push for CBDC, the real hill to die on. We power our house with solar (hence my moniker) and were well aware of how bad that last CME was. Thanks be to God it was not facing the earth. Yikes with the Digital currency - how can TPTB not factor that in? Or have they?
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Post by joebill on May 3, 2023 11:31:34 GMT
woolybear , Bottom line? The government would be in control of your every penny, and at a whim (if you're not on their "approved" list), deny access to anything, including life's necessities with just a keystroke. The government's IT people aren't necessarily the best and brightest, otherwise they wouldn't be working for the government. But they'll design a digital system they'll claim is foolproof and secure (remember the fiasco of the Obamacare system?) Sharp hackers will tear it apart and walk away will digital billions. The entire premise has nothing to do with stopping illegal transactions, it's about control over the population down to what you eat, where you go, and whether your politics (they already know your politics) are "correct" enough (social credit score ala communist China) to live a barely free life. Every time I contemplate the minds that feel compelled to exercise iron control over their fellow citizens, I think there must be a name for such a compulsion, maybe even a treatment. NO QUESTION it is a sickness! It needs a name, in the worst way, to enable us to identify and combat it for what it is.....Joe
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Post by wildhorseluvr on May 3, 2023 12:17:21 GMT
joebill, it’s already been named…PRIDE. Considering themselves gods, exalting self over others and the one true God. (“I’ll do it my way.”) These people have no boundaries…it’s all about self. I find it interesting that the LGBT-whatever group celebrates PRIDE and exalts self. The root of ALL sin is pride. I differ with your thinking that it is a sickness and there is a treatment. It is sin, and the only treatment is to get down on your knees, humble yourself before God and ask His forgiveness through Jesus Christ.
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Post by joebill on May 3, 2023 18:51:22 GMT
I can ACCEPT your premise, wildhorseluvr, but not so long ago, being manipulative and overbearing in government was not something most folks would have been proud of, and nobody seems to be working towards SHAMING them, which looks to me to be the only way back to those times. How many decades has it been since we heard a politico use the time honored phrase "he governs best who governs least"? If we cannot put this into words for the ill informed and/or just plain dullards, how do we expect to get a word in edgewise? Don't forget, we are dealing with people who thought we could solve crime by "defunding the police", and when it did not work, they can easily be persuaded to believe it is the fault of Trump and the MAGA crowd.!!!! SURELY, these same idiots could be persuaded that if a thing is not against the law.......oh, say driving a huge station wagon, for instance, then they should feel free to do it if they want and can afford to. If a man has never owned slaves, well he cannot be blamed if his great grandaddy did. It's called FREEDOM and it is dang sure more FUN than letting the government decide everything for you. Oh, by the way, I will close this rant by calling attention to a story on this morning's news that some may have missed. Nordstrums of San Fransisco has set closing dates for both of it's mega stores in that city, joining a long line of other retailers now singing the same song; "I LOST MY A$$ in San Fransisco" ! since the cops became the bad guys in the cops and robbers games kids play these days..... Eat your heart out, Tony!....Joe
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Post by Ozarks Tom on May 3, 2023 19:22:36 GMT
joebill, The words you're looking for a "sociopath", while their malady is "sociopathy". They've been around forever, many times in high places, and always bring ruin to those under their power. With the current "woke" social atmosphere that's so prevalent we're seeing more and more of them come out in the open with their sickness. There's no cure, someone without the ability to feel guilt or compassion is a lost cause.
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Post by wildhorseluvr on May 3, 2023 19:56:58 GMT
I can ACCEPT your premise, wildhorseluvr , but not so long ago, being manipulative and overbearing in government was not something most folks would have been proud of, and nobody seems to be working towards SHAMING them, which looks to me to be the only way back to those times. Narcissists have no shame. They take no responsibility for the harm they do to others. When was the last time you heard anyone in government offer any sort of apology for their actions? I’m not even talking about a sincere apology…just any apology at all. I cannot recollect hearing one within the last 20-30 years or so. Those in government are probably a lost cause, but I’ve wondered lately if it would do any good for normal people to start standing up to some of the crazies and exposing their irrational thinking. The more of their cr@p we tolerate, the more demanding and aggressive they get. Maybe a little public shaming in the way of responding with facts would make a difference. Thinking of my neighbor’s bombastic BS about the wonders of electric vehicles the other day. If any of what he said were true, we’d all be demanding EVs. It’s total BS…maybe we need to start calling them out on it. Keeping quiet lends weight to their fantasy world.
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Post by joebill on May 3, 2023 20:26:47 GMT
No cure for the sociopath, true, but the great masses that follow them from one mess to another mostly operate off of emotions, and THEY can be influenced.....certainly, SOMEBODY influenced them to act against their own best interests, or they would not be in the fix they are in.
Don't forget for an instant that they mostly live and operate in the very cities that have gone down the rathole just in the short time that the lefties have had carte blanch right there, where no conservative voices have managed to get through any more.
I am not trying to be argumentative, just astonished that in a nation where a fair percentage of those on the right claim to be decent salesmen, I do not see anybody much on the right making the case for a point of view that created that "shining city on a hill" where we used to dwell quite happily.
Most of moronia (my name for those who follow the lefties without question) seems to feel that they will be well informed once they have made a choice between fox news and CNN, and have no further responsibility towards themselves or those who will follow.
OK, I am done for today......Joe
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