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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 24, 2024 20:51:57 GMT
The Russian theater attack happened about 20 yrs ago. The Russians didn’t have much choice in how they handled it without the terrorists blowing up the theater and everyone in it. As bad as their plan was, it was just about their only hope for saving anyone at all. Approx 130-something hostages died out of 800-900, IIRC. Not too bad…unless you were one of the 130 that didn’t make it.
Again, I think it’s way too early to guess at who’s to blame for this attack. Putin blames the Ukrainians, Zelensky denies it, CIA blames ISIS…anything’s possible. I’m leaning toward the Chechens again but could be anyone for any number of reasons.
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Post by sunny225 on Mar 24, 2024 22:07:02 GMT
This wouldn't be a first for Chechnian terrorists. Remember several years ago they shot up a Russian theater, and when the Russia authorities responded they set off a gas to hopefully incapacitate the shooters, but killing everyone in the theater - oops, our bad. Those 2 brothers who had the pressure cooker bombs at Boston Marathon were chechen too, weren't they?
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Post by sunny225 on Mar 24, 2024 22:28:35 GMT
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Post by sunny225 on Mar 24, 2024 22:29:05 GMT
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Post by farmrbrown on Mar 24, 2024 23:11:07 GMT
This wouldn't be a first for Chechnian terrorists. Remember several years ago they shot up a Russian theater, and when the Russia authorities responded they set off a gas to hopefully incapacitate the shooters, but killing everyone in the theater - oops, our bad. Those 2 brothers who had the pressure cooker bombs at Boston Marathon were chechen too, weren't they? Yes, you could say that. When you hear Chechens, think Cossacks. That'll give you an idea of their history. Here's a question though. If the Chechens are terrorists to Russia, does that make Putin a victim - or just ANOTHER terrorist?
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 25, 2024 0:18:19 GMT
France has raised its security alert to the highest level after the Crocus City Hall attack near Moscow, Russia, prime minister says
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 25, 2024 15:44:30 GMT
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 25, 2024 19:42:44 GMT
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 25, 2024 23:56:16 GMT
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Post by sunny225 on Mar 26, 2024 17:16:31 GMT
petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/us-history-of-using-isis?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1119676&post_id=142914869&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=9atnc&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=emailU.S. History of Using ISIS Moscow Theater attack reminds me of U.S. policy in Syria MAR 24, 2024 Back in 2015, the Guardian published a fascinating report titled Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq, which detailed how U.S. and British intelligence were supporting Islamic jihadist rebel groups in Syria with the objective of overthrowing the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The report included a link to a leaked 2012 Department of Defense document about U.S. support for these rebel groups in Syria, including ISIS. This report stuck with me, and I was a reminded of it a couple of years later when Assad was accused in April 2017 of using chemical weapons against Syrian civilians. Notably, this chemical weapons attack just happened to occur the day after Secretary of State Rex Tillerson publicly announced that regime change in Syria was no longer official U.S. policy. In other words—we were told—the day after the U.S. announced it was getting off Assad’s case, he committed an atrocity (of zero military value) that would guarantee that the U.S. recommit itself to getting rid of him. Though most of the legacy press endorsed the assertion that Assad’s forces were behind the attack, a few discerning reporters noted that it could have easily been carried about by one of the Islamic jihadist groups operating in the region to make the Trump administration rethink its abandonment of its regime change objective. Sure enough, a couple of days after the chemical attack, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson announced that he was reconsidering his announcement the week before. Now comes the news of a major terrorist attack on the Crocus City Hall in Moscow that has left hundreds dead and injured. The U.S. government claims the attack was carried out by ISIS-K, which has reportedly taken responsibility for it. However, Kremlin officials have alleged that some of the gunmen were trying to escape into Ukraine, utilizing a 'window' of support from across the border. The U.S. government just issued a statement condemning the terrorist attack in Moscow, but this reminds me of U.S. government doublespeak about ISIS back in the 2012-2017 period—that is, publicly condemning ISIS while secretly supporting it in Syria. My concern now is that the attack on the Moscow theater was—like the Re'im music festival massacre in Israel last October—designed to provoke the absolute maximum violent response. more at link
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Mar 27, 2024 0:59:22 GMT
The latest pronouncements from Putin is that ISIS did indeed do the attack. He started out saying Ukraine was behind it, but too much has come out as to the identities of the shooters and their affiliations.
I still don't understand why ISIS would want to do the deed, other than Russians are non-Muslims. Maybe payback for the destruction of Chechnya? But sometimes the most obvious answer is the right one, without doing contortions to find your favorite culprit.
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 27, 2024 5:53:53 GMT
Mega Geopolitics @megageopolitics JUST IN: 🇷🇺 Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) says US, Britain, and Ukraine are behind the concert hall terrorist attack
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Mar 27, 2024 11:47:28 GMT
Mega Geopolitics @megageopolitics JUST IN: 🇷🇺 Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) says US, Britain, and Ukraine are behind the concert hall terrorist attack Could be true, but Putin has his own motives for his accusations. He seems to be rapidly losing popularity over there lately.
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 29, 2024 3:17:50 GMT
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Post by farmgirl on Mar 30, 2024 21:31:25 GMT
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