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Post by Johnny D on Nov 10, 2016 23:33:41 GMT
A thread dedicated to the belief that we are living in the Biblical end times.
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Post by Johnny D on Nov 10, 2016 23:39:25 GMT
Will this video define the Trump era ?
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Post by blackfeather on Nov 12, 2016 3:30:31 GMT
Are we in the last days? I think so. About the mark of the beast, Is it going to be a new thing or has it ever happen before in history that a segment of the population could neither buy or sell unless they held some mark? It seems to me that during the middle ages certain Jews and non-Catholics at various times were denied the right to conduct business if they were not holding to certain doctrines. So are we certain that the mark has to do with technology and not adherence to a belief that either you hold in your forehead as a belief or just do with your hand to get along? If you keep reading God's people have a mark in their foreheads, the Father's name. This righteous mark might give us a clue as to what the evil mark of the beast is about. Another thing, some of the worst persecutions in history came from other religious people. The Spanish inquisition comes to mind. So not only am I leery of persecution that could arise from liberals, communists or atheists but also leery of persecution that arises from over zealous but profoundly wrong religious people. "Many shall come in my name saying that I am the Christ and deceive many" and "They shall kill you and think they do service to God." Now for some theories with dates. And No I'm not going to explain how I got these, it is too long and requires much study. The beast, we read he arises 7 years before the return of Christ. We read in the middle of his reign the great Tribulation starts. We read that the Tribulation lasts 3 1/2 years, or 42 months or 1260 days. We can also gather by putting scriptures together the Day Of the Lord starts about 6 months, give or take, before the Great Tribulation. We read the beast will be in Egypt, near the Suez Canal when the sun and moon darken. (the sun and moon darken twice once at the start and at the end) We can speculate the time frame to be fall of 2024 if we understand God's Holy days and his calendar. We also can read that he will then leave north Africa and go to the holy land due to a threat. Soon after begins the Tribulation. We read the Tribulation starts around the time of the second woe mentioned in the book of Revelation. If we are of the belief that the Beast will be European then we can speculate that he will arise most likely 70 years after October 19 1951 using the Hebrew Calendar, that puts us in fall (September) of 2021. As the scripture says, very loosely translated, "It ain't over till the fat harlot sings." We will know if these things are more than speculation if the path toward rebuilding the temple comes about sometime around 2018 through 2020. It appears a great work of God occurs and starts just before the Tribulation starts and will be focused around the temple. As a result I suspect it will be a Messianic Jewish work with the man responsible for building the temple and the high priest being prophets of God. Then again I could be wrong about some or all of this. If you wonder were I found all these things written, you need to study the major and minor prophets of the Old Testament, Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation. About Armageddon, you know there is no battle at Armageddon? The Bible says they meet there to fight, but at Christ's return they come to the valley of Jehoshaphat to do battle with Christ. I believe it is called the Kidron valley today, just outside Jerusalem.
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 12, 2016 4:11:28 GMT
I said long time back Trump is the only chance to slow things down, not stop them but provide some a little more time to get right with God . How much time we're going to be allowed is anyone's guess. If the demondcrats had won we were days from WWIII .Anyone not seeing that was either not looking or was blind. The Pope is one big big cog in the NWO agenda. Not many want to see those facts either.
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Post by themotherhen on Nov 12, 2016 4:26:57 GMT
I don't know when Armageddon will start, or who the Antichrist is. I do know that it behooves us to all be ready, all day, every day. And that we should teach our children of these things, when they reach an age of understanding. That is enough for me. I do think that, hopefully, WW3 is slowed for awhile. I would love to someday talk to my grandchildren about God's love and Jesus.
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Post by Johnny D on Nov 12, 2016 6:03:18 GMT
I said long time back Trump is the only chance to slow things down, not stop them but provide some a little more time to get right with God . How much time we're going to be allowed is anyone's guess. If the demondcrats had won we were days from WWIII .Anyone not seeing that was either not looking or was blind. The Pope is one big big cog in the NWO agenda. Not many want to see those facts either. I do on occasion watch Jack Van Impe. He had obtained some old Catholic Church writings which indicated that the church believed that the antichrist would be one of them .... a devil Pope !!!! Then there is the St Malachy Prophecy which is not acknowledged by the Catholic church. The church believes that the prophecy was not his writing but a forgery... The Saint Malachy Prophecy numbers the popes and predicts that the present one is the last..... The previous Pope stepped down which is quite unusual. And now we have this very political NWO leaning Pope who recently urged voters to select pro-social justice candidates while many of his Bishops admonished to vote pro-life.
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Post by tabitha on Nov 15, 2016 0:01:29 GMT
Don't hold your breath. I think not being able to buy and sell is a side effect of the MOTB. I was wondering in the past why would God care/bother about how we pay for our groceries. Take the time to look a little farther. There is the reason why not to accept that mark. It involves great pain, they want to die and can't. something very bad is going on, I don't know who is doing that, but it is a very good reason to stay away from the whole thing. But since it does involve buying and selling and that particular matter is sort of an identifying sign, a few changes have to take place. Cash has to be done away with for one. In Europe this is up front a lot more than here. They have done away with the 500Euro bill, and the plan is to do away with all the big bills, then reduce cash payments more and more until they are faded out totally. The reason given is, to prevent crime, and to prevent under the table business.
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Post by fordy on Nov 15, 2016 1:48:44 GMT
..............So , is the beast or the antichrist all the same entity ? IS , the beast a demon or a human imbued with satanic powers to perform miracles so as to convince those people with no faith or weak faith to believe in him and follow his line of BS as opposed to the traditional Judeo Christian beliefs we have all been taught ? , fordy
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Post by blackfeather on Nov 15, 2016 3:56:09 GMT
..............So , is the beast or the antichrist all the same entity ? IS , the beast a demon or a human imbued with satanic powers to perform miracles so as to convince those people with no faith or weak faith to believe in him and follow his line of BS as opposed to the traditional Judeo Christian beliefs we have all been taught ? , fordy I guess we need to define Judeo-Christian beliefs. The original New Testament church kept the Sabbath day not Sunday. Kept Passover not Easter. Didn't keep Christmas which is really of pagan origin like Easter. Prayed only to God the Father not to a variety of "saints" or to Mary. Confessed their sins to God not a priest for forgiveness. What he may end up teaching may very well be what is expected of him but in truth isn't Biblical.
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Post by Johnny D on Nov 16, 2016 15:34:20 GMT
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 16, 2016 23:36:34 GMT
An EU military would have a conflicting duty influence on Europe. Do they have a national military under their sovereign control, a NATO Command & Control, and an EU Command & Control. If the EU Command disagrees with NATO who do they follow?
One has to wonder if the EU doesn't want a military in place in case a nation decides to bolt the flock.
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 17, 2016 0:14:05 GMT
An EU military would have a conflicting duty influence on Europe. Do they have a national military under their sovereign control, a NATO Command & Control, and an EU Command & Control. If the EU Command disagrees with NATO who do they follow? One has to wonder if the EU doesn't want a military in place in case a nation decides to bolt the flock. That is their only reason ,a handful of unelected people are in fear of losing power.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 7:50:12 GMT
I said long time back Trump is the only chance to slow things down, not stop them but provide some a little more time to get right with God . How much time we're going to be allowed is anyone's guess. If the demondcrats had won we were days from WWIII .Anyone not seeing that was either not looking or was blind. The Pope is one big big cog in the NWO agenda. Not many want to see those facts either. Yes, however, a united and more independent Europe appears necessary, many feel, in order for biblical prophecy to be fulfilled. Already, with the election of Donald Trump, who has spoken of reducing overseas commitments and involvement of the U.S. military, we see Europe looking at taking a more active role in its own defense. German Lawmaker Pushes For European Nuclear Deterrence Plan
by Tyler Durden Nov 16, 2016 2:08 PM [More In Article]
Article: www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-16/german-lawmaker-pushes-european-nuclear-deterrence-plan
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 8:27:33 GMT
..............So , is the beast or the antichrist all the same entity ? IS , the beast a demon or a human imbued with satanic powers to perform miracles so as to convince those people with no faith or weak faith to believe in him and follow his line of BS as opposed to the traditional Judeo Christian beliefs we have all been taught ? , fordy I guess we need to define Judeo-Christian beliefs. The original New Testament church kept the Sabbath day not Sunday. Kept Passover not Easter. Didn't keep Christmas which is really of pagan origin like Easter. Prayed only to God the Father not to a variety of "saints" or to Mary. Confessed their sins to God not a priest for forgiveness. What he may end up teaching may very well be what is expected of him but in truth isn't Biblical.
While this is a decent summary, the daughters of Babylon are not mentioned, those churches still worshipping on Sunday and keeping pagan festivals/holidays (as taught by Rome since the third century A.D.), instead of the seventh day Sabbath and God's holy days. Some of these churches may not worship Mary, as the Catholics do,
but they still follow the commands of men and are still part of the Babylonish system of this world.
"Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God."-2 Corinthians 4:4, Holy Bible, New Living Translation (NLT)
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Post by joebill on Nov 27, 2016 17:41:08 GMT
To me, Biblical prophecy is not a tool to define the near future with any degree of accuracy, but rather a device to demonstrate the existance and nature of God.
When God told David that his "house would rule forever", could anyone have determined the true nature of that rule? Certainly not me, if I were David. I would have assumed I was the first member of an everlasting dynasty which would rule the whole world and everyone in it, not that a distant relative would be Christ, who in the end, WILL rule forever.
To me, the value of prophecy is in gazing backwards to the intricate manner in which it is fulfilled, not forward, trying to determine the undetermanable.
That's just me, though, so don't let me stand in the way. Not trying to tear down, just add a bit of my theory....Joe
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