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Post by farmrbrown on Mar 30, 2020 17:08:44 GMT
Found out on Friday that my wife's niece has tested positive. They called it a "presumptive positive" and supposed to know more later. Long story short, at 30 something she's had several health problems, the last one a brain tumor. On top of that she's in the hot zone of Cleveland Ohio. As bad as this might sound to say, we hope she got the virus back home.................she stopped by here 2 weeks ago on her return trip to Florida, about the same time my wife caught a cold. So you can imagine what the it's been like. Finally convinced her it WAS just a cold and a day later she gets the phone call. Oh Brother! There's a lot of false positives and a lot of those testing positive have no symptoms at all. Hoping that's the case! Keep us posted! That's what I was thinking too. The niece is supposed to hear more from the Cleveland Clinic today I think. One problem for us is that in NC you can't get a test unless you have a dry cough and a 100.5 F temperature so no way to confirm it at this time. Fortunately none of us have any of those symptoms, just allergies due to high pollen count. The thing is 80% are asymptomatic and could spread it to someone that COULD get sick. Crazy isn't it? MOST of us ARE trying to do the right thing for our fellow man but as usual all the gov't can do is cause more problems.
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Post by willowgirl on Mar 31, 2020 14:07:24 GMT
Last night, my boss told me that his best friend's ex-brother-in-law in Lousiana has it and was deathly ill although he is now expected to recover.
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Post by woody on Mar 31, 2020 14:59:29 GMT
I don't know of any one in particular, but now there are 20 cases as of today in our small Village. It looks like a ghost town. Very eerie, much worse than the "Birds" movie!!!
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Post by farmrbrown on Mar 31, 2020 21:53:28 GMT
2o minutes ago our niece got her test results back from the Cleveland Clinic. Negative.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 1, 2020 1:30:54 GMT
Got an email from a friend to today saying his daughter and son-in-law are both working in medical facilities. The son-in-law has already recovered from the virus, and is back at work.
They're quietly cleaning their masks with an ozone contraption not approved by the FDA, but when combined with ultra violet light does the job just fine.
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Post by blackfeather on Apr 1, 2020 2:28:37 GMT
One of the offices We clean, had a patient that the nurse practitioner was worried about. He called the health department but the patient didn't meet the criteria for testing. Fortunately the examination room got sprayed down and cleaned before we got there. Any way a week later the same patient got sicker and ended up being tested and came down positive. Now for about one week this patient was out there exposing others to this virus, and the health department when warned did nothing for a week till he got worse.
The other case is an old woman at the assisted living facility where my wife and daughter work. She just arrived and had the virus. They didn't want to admit her to the facility but New York made a rule at a person can't be turned down for such a facility even if they have the virus. Don't want to infringe on her rights you know. Not that they care about the rights of the other people living there. She has been asked to stay in her room but most of these older people are like Joe Biden and can't remember anything from one hour to the next. My wife has to clean her room from time to time. Apparently she isn't very sick and has only a mild case.
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Post by joebill on Apr 3, 2020 2:04:24 GMT
Tell your wife the woman will not be nearly so dangerous if she is not coughing up nasty stuff into the air and on surfaces. When my kids were young, I soon learned most coughing could be prevented by a table spoon full of sugar soaked in brandy, followed by the promise of more if they continued to cough. If they just HAD to cough, they would put their heads under the blankets to muffle the noise, which helped prevent spreading the germs. I am told that the addition of a few cakes of EX-LAX will also suppress coughing purely as a matter of self defense, but I would not try that one if I had to clean the room... …..Joe
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 2:52:48 GMT
I knew somebody with it, but he's recovered now. But then again, I didn't personally see with my own eyes any evidence it was COVID. Neither did he, other than a test result from a lab that said it was COVID. Seems like it would have to be an absolutely massive worldwide conspiracy for it not to be real.
Exponential growth is tricky to get our heads around. It looks like nothing is happening for quite a while, then suddenly "out of nowhere" it skyrockets. Here's a simple way to visualize it:
Soon, many more of us will personally know someone who had it. Hopefully none of us will be the one with it that the rest of us know.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 3, 2020 17:54:32 GMT
Exponential on a smaller scale would be if you infected two people, and they infected another two people each, and those four people infected two people each, etc. etc. etc. in 31 days your infection of those two people would have turned into over 800,000 infected people. And that's based on the assumption that nobody infects more than two people.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 18:23:44 GMT
Yep, and the numbers we've been seeing with this virus are over 2, so it's that much faster. I haven't paid attention lately, but the last estimate I saw had each infected person infecting an average of 2.6 others.
In reality, some will infect many more and some may not infect anyone. It's just an average. And of course there's no way to know what that average number really is until after it's all over and they crunch the data. These numbers are all based on incomplete data so it's not quite as high as it appears, but anything over 1.0 is growth.
The social distancing push is to bring that down under 1.0. Below 1.0, the number of active cases starts to shrink.
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Post by paisley on Apr 3, 2020 18:50:15 GMT
Exponential on a smaller scale would be if you infected two people, and they infected another two people each, and those four people infected two people each, etc. etc. etc. in 31 days your infection of those two people would have turned into over 800,000 infected people. And that's based on the assumption that nobody infects more than two people. That number is greater than my state population! Just to give scale to the number
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:11:13 GMT
Another positive thought, though: the virus is not as fast as Tom's example, because it's something like five days for each infected person to pass it on to the next 2.x, rather than one day.
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Post by DEKE on Apr 3, 2020 19:38:18 GMT
Sorry guys, you're stuck on this planet with me. How folding paper will NOT get you to the moon... link number-times-you-can-fold-paper The commonly accepted wisdom is that you can't fold a single sheet of paper in half more than seven times.
The problem with folding paper in half multiple times is that the paper's surface area decreases by half with each fold. A single sheet of paper may be easy to cut, rip, or tear, but a paper that has been folded in half multiple times becomes very strong because of the increase in density.
The sevenfold limit holds true if you are using a standard size sheet of printer paper. However, if you alter the size or thickness of the paper, you can increase the number of folds that are possible.
MythBusters, a popular science program on the Discovery Channel, once featured the paper folding myth on its program. They determined that using a larger sheet of paper would make it possible to fold the paper in half more than seven times. MythBusters used a sheet of paper the size of a football field. By fold seven, everyone involved in the project finds it very difficult. However, the team eventually manages to fold the paper eight times with no tools. With the assistance of a forklift and steamroller, they get the paper to fold 11 times.
In 2001, high school student Britney Gallivan of Pomona, California, successfully managed to fold a paper in half 12 times by using a roll of long, thin specialty toilet paper that was 1.2 kilometers in length.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 19:52:54 GMT
No sane person thinks they could fold paper to get to the moon. It's only a demonstration of exponential growth..."if you could fold paper 40 times...."
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Post by DEKE on Apr 3, 2020 19:57:07 GMT
No sane person thinks ...
Sometimes you act like you don't even know me.
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