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Post by Ozarks Tom on Aug 23, 2020 17:29:26 GMT
I've been giving this question considerable thought, but haven't come to reasonable conclusion. No matter the scenario I apply, the end result just doesn't make sense.
The question: We all know BLM & Antifa are well funded, coordinated, and radically mentored and tutored. We also know, just by guesstimating their total numbers that they're way insufficient in human volume to successfully overthrow the government, and they're certainly not making any friends with their destruction.
It's obvious there are various(?) puppet masters pulling their strings who have no qualms about seeing them violently wiped out, for the time being they're just useful idiots.
But to what eventual use?
Some of the scenarios I've worked through to their logical ends include Antifa turning true domestic terrorist and sabotaging our power grid, and/or possibly hacking/destroying the SNAP/EBT systems, possibly along with Social Security. After all, many are young college students with knowledge of programming and probably already hackers. But while that would trigger widespread riots and economic disruption most likely bringing about martial law to calm, how does that benefit someone like Soros?
Another would be BLM creating an even worse real or manufactured incident like the Floyd killing? Possibly the assassination of a couple black leaders? That would draw out many more black people than the previous incidents, with much more widespread violence, especially if a "right wing" group could be blamed. Again, probably martial law, but to what end?
For the life of me I can't see where all this craziness is intended to end up, and who benefits in the end.
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Post by BrewDaddy on Aug 23, 2020 18:57:33 GMT
To answer the question I'm afraid I can't... It sure seems that all indications are the the Long Game will simply lead to nothing but destruction and despair.
I've said it before: some people just want to see the world burn...
What used to be at most a BLM simmer after they first kicked off after Ferguson. as we've seen has become a full on boil over. If BLM didn't want the riots and burning, they'd be having daily press conferences denouncing them. Antifa and BLM are not the same thing, but a lot of people associate them together. BLM has done little to not shake the Antifa stick when it seems it will suit their purpose. Hey - it's not us BLM folks doing all this - it's Antifa <wink> <wink>.
The perfect storm certainly doesn't help the whole situation. The anti Trump rage and TDS, everyone is out of school, lots out of work (or choosing to not go back and suck on the teet as long as possible), and throw in gobs and gobs of people penned up at home for months at a time.
Heck, even mild mannered BrewDaddy wants to step outside and just start screaming from time to time - and I've got it good and cozy....
Their long game makes no sense, but since when does leftist ideology make any sense?
The day after the official tally is done for the upcoming election a new world will be upon us... whether it is a much better world, or one much much worse, well.... I'm not sure I wanna think about it too much.
"Stack it deep" - BrewDaddy
"Stay away from crowds" - Ol' Remus (RIP)
bd
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Aug 23, 2020 21:32:02 GMT
To be honest, I think that you need only look at the Russian Revolution to get a better idea of how things may play out or at least how these idiots would like it to play out.
Their mess started with the split of the Mensheviks political party.
The Bolsheviks, whose name literally means "majority", were not the majority of the party nor did they have the support of the majority of the populace.
The Mensheviks were actually the majority of the political party, and Menshevik literally means "minority".
Typical Russian logic. Have another slug of vodka.
The same thing seems to be playing out here to a degree. The "minority in numbers" idiots are trying to convince everyone that they are and have the support of the masses while the actual majority of the populace do not wholeheartedly support the idiots and are mostly silent or just waiting things out to see how they go..
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Post by tarbe on Aug 23, 2020 22:55:20 GMT
A divided people are easier to control than a united people.
I don't think it is any more complex than that.
TBTB need obedient (to authority), and somewhat fearful (of their fellow) bots. This allows them to build their personal empires, even while the Republic is in a downward spiral.
They are accomplishing the fear and distrust very well, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 0:46:06 GMT
When I read threads like this one, and see memes like this one:
I think of handbaskets and hot places.
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Post by daw on Aug 24, 2020 0:58:26 GMT
I don’t see a lot brilliance in the rioters . I think they are frustrated kids that did not grow up smart. They are rebellious and didn’t do their school Work. Once they found that people would pay them for destruction It did not become fun they became angry. In all reality people need someone to look up to. The people paying them scorn them. They can not help but know that , now they can’t stop.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Aug 24, 2020 2:15:40 GMT
The problem comes down to the fact that we're all being played. Emotions, though not always predictable, are definitely subject to stimuli. The leftists are being worked into a frenzy, while the more conservative majority is doing a slow burn. When that slow burn ignites into a full blow torch is anyone's guess, but the push is obvious.
I'm still saying to myself who's intending to gain from this mess? I understand the Cloward-Piven strategy of creating such economic chaos the country starts over as socialist, but that's more of an overloading the system strategy than violent upheaval.
I hate to think that my probably paranoid answer is someone like George Soros with his God complex is doing this just for fun. He certainly has the funds and organizations in place to push all the buttons, it's just hard to believe anyone is that evil, even him.
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Post by Txsteader on Aug 24, 2020 11:32:13 GMT
Soros isn't the only one w/ a God complex. The Democrat party is full of them.
Frankly, I think we have far more domestic enemies than we are willing to admit & they're sitting in Congress. Domestic enemies, as in traitors that need to be hung. Or shot. Traitors who would never consider that they're simply useful idiots and will never hold the power they covet.
A divided people are easier to conquer than a united people. I fear Americans are too naive to even consider the possibility.
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Post by daw on Aug 24, 2020 11:42:10 GMT
The USA is the envy of the world. Other countries may have resources such as we have but...... which they want but when they get it we have more. Russia has long had their eye on our abundant oil.
But no country has our beginning . In God we trust has been our motto for 400 years.
Now our own country wants to be the supreme decision maker. If we deny God we become like other nations filled with dissatisfaction and distrust of each other.
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Post by joebill on Aug 24, 2020 12:45:52 GMT
Time to go re-read "rules for radicals".
"Admit it! You want the power, and it will only be yours when you destroy the existing power structure".
That is not a direct quote, but near enough. Whoever and whatever is at the top of them believes if he can make the whole nation a shambles, he can re-organize it under his own set of rules with him at the top.
We are the prize. They feel if they can take down the USA, the rest of the world will topple as well....Joe
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Post by daw on Aug 24, 2020 13:43:20 GMT
I have always wondered about weather underground because to me underground is clandestine. In this case it is . Weather underground is the head of BLM/nazi. They fun them tell them where to go and supply their needs. They are and have been extremely radical and seek to undermine government. So who is the head? Sounds like Soros. Guess I will do more research.
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Post by daw on Aug 24, 2020 13:47:50 GMT
I have always wondered about weather underground because to me underground is clandestine. In this case it is . Weather underground is the head of BLM/nazi. They fun them tell them where to go and supply their needs. They are and have been extremely radical and seek to undermine government. So who is the head? Sounds like Soros. Guess I will do more research.
Founded at Ann Arbor goal communism Leader Bill Ayers
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Post by joebill on Aug 24, 2020 14:48:24 GMT
I recall when China had it's great upheaval, nobody in the outside world seemed to know who was running the show, either. Seems to be a tradition in attempted communist takeovers, and small wonder! What sane person would not stomp on that bug if he knew for sure which bug to stomp?
Also, if given a name and a face, his own movement would no doubt find perceived "past sins" on which to base wresting power from him and taking over themselves, one faction at a time. Power can never be exercised fully until it is absolute, and at the present time it is very shaky and tenuous.....Joe
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Post by fordy on Aug 24, 2020 16:23:22 GMT
...............Both Russia and especially China derive the greatest benefit from all the chaos that is being created within our society ! Russia wants to re establish the old pre 1998 borders it controlled before it's economic collapse , under Putin ! NATO under Trump has sent equipment and troops to countries like Poland right up to Russia's back yard . All the Trump imposed sanctions don't seem to have had much effect on Putin's continued improvement in it's R&D in all facets of it's armaments production . They are having a problem borrowing sufficient funds to grow their oil and gas production . ..............China is the major receipent in the internal upheavel of the American political system as well as the dethroning of the Trump economy via the beer virus . Trump has chosen to directly confront China on all it's claims to property rights delineated by their line drawn around the South China Sea . That little Turd who runs the Phillipeans(sp) changed his mind about allowing the Navy to reoccupy their base at Subic Bay . China , supposedly pointed out to him his country would be attacked IF a war started so he caved at the last minute ! Trump should just pull a Teddy Roosevelt and inform him what we are going to do regardless ! ...............Trump has chosen to directly strengthen our military support with Tiawan which is in direct conflict with the "One China" policy followed by previous Administrations all the way back to Carter . Should Biden win the Prez China will completely dominate the SCS and probably invade Tiawan as Biden has no testicles large enough to directly confront them as Trump has ! , fordy
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Post by Txsteader on Aug 24, 2020 20:56:05 GMT
I have always wondered about weather underground because to me underground is clandestine. In this case it is . Weather underground is the head of BLM/nazi. They fun them tell them where to go and supply their needs. They are and have been extremely radical and seek to undermine government. So who is the head? Sounds like Soros. Guess I will do more research. Founded at Ann Arbor goal communism Leader Bill Ayers Yes ma'am. Bill Ayers, who has been a professor @ the University of Illinois. Any wonder why the universities have become breeding grounds for radicals or who's been teaching these young radicals when people like him are university professors.
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