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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 12, 2020 16:32:39 GMT
After watching several of the "conspiracy" videos, reading several articles pointing out different aspects of the "alleged" voter fraud, and generally not believing the supposed facts as they're presented in any of the media, my suspicious mind has a lingering question hanging around I just can't dismiss or answer.
What if, the Dominion vote tallying system was designed so the "glitches" would be just obvious enough to be found? That would cause a number of reactions, with the biggest one immediately would the the FBI/DOJ computer specialists discovering the algorithm that was set to tilt the election to Biden.
Even if that normally would ensure a hand recount of every ballot, there are enough videos and affidavits of poll worker fraud to make a recount useless. Would anyone trust a recount of possibly fraudulent or altered ballots? After all, the republican poll watchers in many states weren't allowed to observe the counting. Counting was shut down simultaneously in 5 states when Trump was leading, and reopened to find boxes of Biden votes.
Would there be a "do-over" election, this time with the old rules and voter ID required federally. Or, would the SCOTUS rule enough fraud proven to "award" Trump the win?
I've got the feeling we're being set up, not just the conservatives, but the progressives as well. The algorithms were meant to be found and the cheating exposed to those who already suspect it. But, if Trump eventually overcomes through the courts the progressives will once again be certain the election was stolen. Remember, leftists/progressives aren't interested in facts or reason, they're emotionally driven.
So what's the upshot of this whole theory? Civil War. The riots and chaos of the past months will be dwarfed by the millions of leftists certain of their righteousness of their cause. "Tear it all down" will be their rallying cry, and it won't be limited to urban areas.
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Post by Txsteader on Nov 12, 2020 17:15:16 GMT
I was just discussing the situation w/ my DD, asking why the Dems never condemned the BLM/antifa violence. She said it was politicians playing to their voter base. But like I told her, that's a dangerous base to be playing to - anti-American radical marxists.
She sorta pooh-poohed my theory that the goal is to tear the country/Constitution down and replace it w/ something 'better'. And I understand that people don't want to admit that we could be heading for something as terrible as civil war, but it's hard to find any other logical explanation - especially when the idiots are out there saying it.
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Post by paisley on Nov 12, 2020 17:37:34 GMT
Logic...lets use the known facts...go with the simple answer that the path points out..m
FRAUD.
The basis primitive safety ...poll watched were blocked or impeded.
Too much to over look.
I see smoke I look for fire.
Some form of fraudulent acts happen. Please see if YouTube has a viewable option of voting night that post all the results showing all the screen shots as filmed of the tabulation counts.
People have broken it down to shot by shot and not only did the national one flipped votes but local shows have been shown and the same flip has been show..
These catches disappear some have been save by techies not me but seeing votes flip is a program.
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Post by woody on Nov 12, 2020 17:55:28 GMT
Fox said in NV the signature feature was turned of, so no signatures were even looked at!!!!
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Nov 12, 2020 18:34:02 GMT
The radical left really cannot go as crazy as they would like because of the Constitution as it stands. They would have to get rid of much of it before they can really start building their "utopia".
If they could somehow get rid of the Constitution as it is presently written, all bets are off and they could free-wheel all they want.
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Post by Johnny D on Nov 13, 2020 20:44:10 GMT
The radical left really cannot go as crazy as they would like because of the Constitution as it stands. They would have to get rid of much of it before they can really start building their "utopia". If they could somehow get rid of the Constitution as it is presently written, all bets are off and they could free-wheel all they want. Under what conditions can the constitution be temporarily suspended ? And martial law imposed ?
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Post by blackfeather on Nov 13, 2020 23:29:21 GMT
I'm not sure Ozarks Tom, if they really know what they are doing, but the evil spirit world certainly does. There has been a concerted effort to divide this country. The news media is brain washing people that Biden is fait accompli. If it turns out the other way the left will explode, which will drive those who are in the apathetic middle to the right. I do believe civil/ revolutionary war is going to happen just not sure if it is to happen right yet. I haven't given up on Trump just yet, I'm willing to wait to see how it all plays out. If he gets in I would hope he'd go after the corruption that had been exposed in his first four years and the present election. I think that this is a motivating factor by all the democrats, big business and never Trump republicans as to the level of voter fraud committed. They are scared stiff if he gets in again he may go after the corruption (and take away their government cow they've been milking) not only in the democrat party but the FBI, CIA, and even the Never Trump Republicans. When people are desperate they aren't careful about hiding their fraud.
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Post by farmrbrown on Nov 13, 2020 23:45:33 GMT
The radical left really cannot go as crazy as they would like because of the Constitution as it stands. They would have to get rid of much of it before they can really start building their "utopia". If they could somehow get rid of the Constitution as it is presently written, all bets are off and they could free-wheel all they want. Under what conditions can the constitution be temporarily suspended ? And martial law imposed ? Excellent question and since I didn't know the answer, I went on a search and found this interesting article. Take note of the authors at the top of the page. constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/article-i/clauses/763
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Nov 14, 2020 1:56:30 GMT
The radical left really cannot go as crazy as they would like because of the Constitution as it stands. They would have to get rid of much of it before they can really start building their "utopia". If they could somehow get rid of the Constitution as it is presently written, all bets are off and they could free-wheel all they want. Under what conditions can the constitution be temporarily suspended ? And martial law imposed ?
Who said anything about temporarily suspending the Constitution? The radical left may just ignore it like they do many other laws when it is to their advantage.
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Post by BrewDaddy on Nov 14, 2020 2:27:37 GMT
Under what conditions can the constitution be temporarily suspended ? And martial law imposed ?
Who said anything about temporarily suspending the Constitution? The radical left may just ignore it like they do many other laws when it is to their advantage.
Exactly.... They don't have to suspend, change or abolish the Constitution... why bother when they can just ignore it in the first place?? bd
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Post by BrewDaddy on Nov 14, 2020 2:31:46 GMT
We're being told that this was the most secure election in history...
That may indeed be so, but it begs the question:
If THIS was the most secure ever, then what about all the previous elections that came prior??
brew
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Post by farmrbrown on Nov 14, 2020 2:49:59 GMT
Under what conditions can the constitution be temporarily suspended ? And martial law imposed ?
Who said anything about temporarily suspending the Constitution? The radical left may just ignore it like they do many other laws when it is to their advantage.
I wonder how many Americans realized when their states started declaring emergency and executive orders that those states had indeed suspended their state constitutions to do so, and most have remained that way to the present?
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Nov 14, 2020 3:18:01 GMT
We're being told that this was the most secure election in history... That may indeed be so, but it begs the question: If THIS was the most secure ever, then what about all the previous elections that came prior?? brew I've been wondering that for a long time, particularly in regard to Oregon.
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Post by Johnny D on Nov 14, 2020 9:30:03 GMT
Who said anything about temporarily suspending the Constitution? The radical left may just ignore it like they do many other laws when it is to their advantage.
I wonder how many Americans realized when their states started declaring emergency and executive orders that those states had indeed suspended their state constitutions to do so, and most have remained that way to the present? I am researching to do a thread concerning a lawsuit in Ohio. Doctors requesting data the state used to justify lock down which is information that is by law accessible to the public yet being withheld. Dr name is Pamela Popper and she has made many YouTube videos. Just search her name if interested ..... her company provides many services and now they even assist others in suing their own states. Pamela and her associates believe Covid is a hoax.
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Post by paisley on Nov 14, 2020 19:24:03 GMT
Boom!!!! The process of following the constitution will work I firmly believe! The complaint filed in Pennsylvania by the Trump campaign is a superb piece of legal craftsmanship. It was filed in federal court, not state. The gist is that some of the state's actions, and particularly the exclusion of Republican poll-watchers during the counting of hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots, violated federal constitutional requirements. The point is obvious enough once one thinks of it, but it's brilliant all the same. It shifts the focus from state law, where a politicized Pennsylvania court has the last word, to federal law, where the U.S. Supreme Court rules. As for the obviousness of the point, consider as a thought experiment a state law requiring that all votes be counted in secret by an unelected board named by the party in power. Could it survive a constitutional challenge? As my old Harvard constitutional law professors would have said, "to ask the question is to answer it." It is hard to count all the constitutional guarantees violated here: Equal Protection, Due Process, Privileges and Immunities. Indeed, the complaint stacks up the Supreme Court precedents supporting its arguments, including the long line of ringing statements in the chain of one-person-one-vote decisions Read more: www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/trumps_pennsylvania_complaint_is_brilliant.html#ixzz6dnaM7y1rFollow us: @americanthinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook link
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