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Post by Jolly on Feb 6, 2024 14:18:43 GMT
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Post by David! on Feb 6, 2024 14:34:34 GMT
I would give them catchy names to make it seem more fun like The David The Painter Resort.
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Post by Billy G on Feb 6, 2024 15:04:16 GMT
A simple solution would be to change the zoning ordinances to allow tiny homes to be built in neighborhoods that need to be rebuilt. These folks don't need a 3/2 ranch to maintain and heat. Oh yeah, and start making things here again so there are jobs for them.
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Post by paisley2 on Feb 6, 2024 15:34:55 GMT
One thing I think about is with communities with shrinking school students numbers, would be to close school, building and since (here in Ak schools building are owned by the community not the school district) would be to turn a school in to a homeless spot with social services an training centers.
The building have bathrooms, showers,kitchens. Gyms for overflow sleeping classrooms could be for housing and training (or retraining )and social services, they have a mini med room.
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Post by Jolly on Feb 6, 2024 15:52:57 GMT
One thing I think about is with communities with shrinking school students numbers, would be to close school, building and since (here in Ak schools building are owned by the community not the school district) would be to turn a school in to a homeless spot with social services an training centers. The building have bathrooms, showers,kitchens. Gyms for overflow sleeping classrooms could be for housing and training (or retraining )and social services, they have a mini med room. I think you've got something... |
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Post by Billy G on Feb 6, 2024 16:00:05 GMT
They're trying out that concept right now in Chicago.......for illegals! If anyone has abandoned schools in their town that weren't "good enough" to repair for the students I'd get to work getting them demolished sooner than later.
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Post by paisley2 on Feb 6, 2024 19:40:59 GMT
Student numbers are going down do to low births and parental choice to avoid public schools. Between private choices and homeschooling parents the large schools and multiple schools built in communities built in the 60's and later are eating up money in updating. Since the 80's the updates to install new computer wiring, newer modern plumbing to save or reuse water. Safer structures, energy efficient, air quality... Safety.....
Codes change and taxpayers now often are ending up with alot of real estate off of the tax roles but on the rolls for security, and the shoulder of the taxpayers.
Some schools with large fields could be used to community garden lots or a city farm. Even using them as local snow dumps. We really need to look at when community needs are best server with unused school land. The community member need to have a voice on this. It will be coming to your communities.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Feb 6, 2024 21:46:59 GMT
I'm afraid this isn't one of those "if you build it, they will come" projects. A very high percentage of the homeless are both mentally ill and drug addicts, while other are just drug addicts. Those are the people who need to be off the streets for sure, but without a judicial commitment you can't just scoop them up and basically lock them away.
Those unfortunate people who've lost their homes and are legitimately homeless might very well welcome a place to get away from the addicts, and a project might be just the deal for them as they try to get back on their feet. But the whole thing has to be voluntary, and unless those camps were to allow drug dealing I see only a marginal success.
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Post by laurazone5 on Feb 7, 2024 11:40:31 GMT
The "law makers" need to surround themselves with those folks who spend every day dealing with, helping, checking on homeless folks.
THEY have a pulse on the 'why' they are homeless.
You have the mental health piece. THAT piece alone, is multi-faceted.
You have the drugs and alcohol addicted, most of whom, also, are trying to self medicate for mental health issues.
You have the criminal element.
You have folks who, though no fault of their own, find themselves homeless.
Families who work, but cannot afford rent. Bad credit keeps them from renting.
1 eviction on the credit report and no one will rent to you.
You have people who CHOOSE homelessness.
Don't forget their pets. If they cannot bring their pets, forget it.
Personally, I would sleep in my car before I would give up my dogs for shelter.
This mixed bag of human experience self regulates on the street. Jam them all in one place? Nope. this will not work.
IF they really want to fix the problem, this will take time, money, and separate places.
If all they care about is property values and appearance, well.......put up tent city and see what happens.
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Post by Tricky Grama on Feb 7, 2024 12:15:30 GMT
I like the 'tiny homes' solution. I agree you cannot just 'round 'em up' & take them there but you can threaten w/arrest for 'squatting' if that's against the law. Then point 'em in the right direction.
If we can provide rec centers for folks/kids & the programs that go along w/those, we can provide facilities for the homeless where they can WORK & do things in a commune setting...
maybe...
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Post by joebill on Feb 26, 2024 17:53:26 GMT
I was in the last class to "graduate" from my ancient elementary school a block from our home. After us, they demolished the 3 story brick building and began fresh across town.
The school yard was half a square block of nice level ground and a few years later they began building duplexes on it, plenty of room in between, nice walkways but nothing particularly fancy or expensive. When we were told it was to be "government housing" we were far from delighted to have it so near, but there was a surprise on the way.
The town had a lot of old two story houses built only marginally more conservative than old southern mansions, most of which had a single old widow woman or the occasional elderly couple who had outlived their savings living there.
The places were so full of termites that as the oldsters died or went to live in homes or with relatives, the fire department would clear the brush around them and torch them....they were that worthless. They were almost all blocked off so the couple did not have to heat the whole place and often lived only in the kitchen and bedroom and the upstairs were all wrecks. There were also elderly people living in more conservative homes that should have been condemned years previous.
Those duplexes, one and all, were rented to the oldsters for less money per year than the heat used to cost them while trying to live in those old wrecks. The town got cleaned up, the oldsters got along well together, the rest of us used to take some produce, a stringer of fish, a couple of cottontails we has shot down the street and give them to the old folks and nothing went to waste.
One old lady, dunno where she was from, lamented that she could not find SQUAB to cook and come to find out that is nothing but a very young pigeon, so we boys used to go catch them for her after dark out of the eaves of the commercial building where my Dad worked.
It was a nice setup for them for years....I dunno if it remains or not.....Joe
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Post by daw on Feb 26, 2024 22:30:32 GMT
I do not believe all the people on the streets are homeless. Jobless or not
They like the freebies they get. Why work when it is free?
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Post by joebill on Feb 26, 2024 23:52:26 GMT
I am sure a lot more of them are homeless by choice.
Used to gripe me that you had to get a certificate of occupancy in the city if you built your own house but they could camp beside the interstate, crap on the ground, leave their trash laying around and pilfer from the cars parked at the Holiday Inn all night long....Joe
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