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Post by farmgirl on Feb 16, 2024 21:54:23 GMT
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Post by farmgirl on Feb 17, 2024 0:15:39 GMT
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Post by sunny225 on Feb 17, 2024 1:14:58 GMT
I would sell everything I owned in NY and never come back.
This is ridiculous.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Feb 17, 2024 1:26:56 GMT
He'll appeal it and make Judge Engeron look like the cheap partisan hack he is.
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Post by Tricky Grama on Feb 17, 2024 12:44:02 GMT
He'll appeal it and make Judge Engeron look like the cheap partisan hack he is. I certainly hope so. Most of the law-speaking heads I heard said this was for sure gonna be overturned... |
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Post by daw on Feb 17, 2024 13:40:27 GMT
Maybe someone should look into Erogans past or present. He is a Democrat but seems as if they have a different view of things. Other people are guilty but Democrats do no wrong.
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Post by ohiodreamer on Feb 17, 2024 14:52:36 GMT
He needs to sell all his "blue state" holdings and invest in "red states".
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Post by joebill on Feb 18, 2024 3:08:47 GMT
They got rid of Arizona governor Ev Meecham decades ago in about the same kind of ridiculous lawsuit when every other contractor was doing about the same and remained untouched. Evan's great crime was using the word "Picaninny" in a sentence on air  .....Joe |
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Post by Tricky Grama on Feb 18, 2024 14:26:57 GMT
If he's barred from doing biz for 3 years can he still sell property?
I need to delve into what he was charged for, something about not valuing his property right? Yet there was an ac of waterfront very close to MiraLago for $100,000,000...
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Post by farmgirl on Feb 18, 2024 15:38:11 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13096095/Trump-supporting-truckers-New-York-City-fraud-verdict.htmlTrump-supporting truckers REFUSE to take loads to New York after former president was fined $355 million in NYC fraud case Truckers are reportedly planning to boycott New York City by refusing to take loads to and from the Big Apple The decision comes after former President Donald Trump was fined $355 million in a civil fraud verdict that was handed down on Friday One trucker, who posted on social media, said the boycott came about after the decision - with some truckers already alerting their bosses, according to him
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Post by sunny225 on Feb 18, 2024 17:15:21 GMT
I saw this about the truckers. Let's see how many of them actually do something.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Feb 18, 2024 22:51:00 GMT
If he's barred from doing biz for 3 years can he still sell property? I need to delve into what he was charged for, something about not valuing his property right? Yet there was an ac of waterfront very close to MiraLago for &100,000,000...
He was accused of over-valuing his properties on loan applications. All valuations are estimates and subjective. Only a foolish lender wouldn't do their own valuations, and those lenders involved in this case did. They made the loans.
A couple things on top of that: The loans were all repaid, with interest agreed upon. The lenders testified in court that they were in no way harmed by the loans.
Putting this judgement in terms of everyday life: If you take your trade-in to a car dealer and negotiate the value, if some bureaucrat thinks you've overvalued your clunker he could take you to court.
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Post by Tricky Grama on Feb 20, 2024 13:44:26 GMT
If he's barred from doing biz for 3 years can he still sell property? I need to delve into what he was charged for, something about not valuing his property right? Yet there was an ac of waterfront very close to MiraLago for &100,000,000...
He was accused of over-valuing his properties on loan applications. All valuations are estimates and subjective. Only a foolish lender wouldn't do their own valuations, and those lenders involved in this case did. They made the loans.
A couple things on top of that: The loans were all repaid, with interest agreed upon. The lenders testified in court that they were in no way harmed by the loans.
Putting this judgement in terms of everyday life: If you take your trade-in to a car dealer and negotiate the value, if some bureaucrat thinks you've overvalued your clunker he could take you to court.
I know it was over valuation but I wanted to see what properties, what transactions. It was stated on ALL transactions: like a disclaimer: do your own evaluations. So why doesn't that protect? |
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Post by sunny225 on Feb 20, 2024 17:23:28 GMT
The odd thing is that the companies Trump did business with aren't the ones who said he committed fraud. It was the government. And there was no fraud but the GOVERNMENT said there was. And the GOVERNMENT gets the money.
Nah, can't be any kind of political payback going on there. Don't you trust your GOVERNMENT?
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Feb 21, 2024 1:45:44 GMT
I read today an explanation as to why the judgement was set so high. Apparently there's a law in New York that says in order to appeal a judgement you have to put up the judgement in full, plus in this case a $100,000 interest bond. Plus, the appellent only has 30 days to come up with the money or they can't appeal. In other words, Trump has 30 days from the ruling to come up with the nearly half billion cash or he's unable to go further.
He might find an insurance company, out of New York, that would post the bond, or go straight to the Supreme Court bypassing the New York Court of Appeals. Either way, it's a very clever trap.
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.....Joe