Oregon cease & desist livestock & gardens?

[mzgarden]

Folks in Oregon -- truth?

Excerpts:

The rancher explains that there are two different laws that Oregon officials are using to conduct these shutdowns. One involves the state of Oregon's broadly vague definition of a CAFO, which reads, in part, as follows:

"The State of Oregon defines CAFOs as the concentrated feeding or holding of animals or poultry, including but not limited to horse, cattle, sheep, or swine feeding areas, dairy confinement areas, and poultry and egg production facilities where the surface has been prepared with concrete, rock or fibrous material to support animals in wet weather." .....

All Oregon groundwater, even on private property, considered public

Because of this rule, Oregon farmers are not even allowed to use water from their own private wells to irrigate their crops and hydrate their animals without a permit. Coupled with the CAFO rule, this one concerning water use is being abused in such a way as to make it prohibitive, if not impossible, for farmers to run their farms.

"This rule went into place back in 2021," the rancher explains about how Oregon officials enacted the water rule, which just so happens to have happened at a time when everyone was being distracted and traumatized by Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) "pandemic" tyranny.

"It has slowly rolled out to the point where market gardeners on a half-acre of land are now receiving cease-and-desist orders saying, 'you can't water your gardens; figure out another way.'"

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[BrewDaddy]

mzgarden,
They are now either backing down apparently in order to 'clarify' who or what qualifies as a CAFA.

odanews.wpengine.com/oda-revises-water-quality-policies-for-small-livestock-farms/

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[wildhorseluvr]

Mar 25, 2024 18:48:10 GMT BrewDaddy said:

mzgarden ,
They are now either backing down apparently in order to 'clarify' who or what qualifies as a CAFA.

odanews.wpengine.com/oda-revises-water-quality-policies-for-small-livestock-farms/

bd

“In particular, ODA withdraws its policy that the act of milking an animal in a barn, or the washing of equipment used in milking an animal, triggers a CAFO permit coverage requirement.”

Even if ODA keeps such policies, homesteaders could always milk a goat in a carport or a tool shed (“not a barn”). Milk by hand so you’re not using “equipment”. Line a milking bucket with a 2.5 gallon ZipLoc bag, eliminating the need to wash the bucket. 
But of course that doesn’t help small farmers. 😡

So glad I escaped Oregon. 

[BrewDaddy]

Supposedly, and I say this loosely, a local place has already been shut down over this.

Social media hysterics being what they are I'm doubtful. But I'm thinking I might make some phone calls tomorrow and find out.

The farm is closed for the winter season, and it says that on their web page, but folkz may be equating "closed small farm" and "horrible now better described and defined regulation"...

We shall see...

bd

[Ozarks Tom]

Portland is a a fecal pit, but the government has other priorities.

[wildhorseluvr]

Off topic except it’s more Oregon. I can’t even comment. SMH

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13244295/oregon-governor-wife-nepotism-scandal-accusations-bullying.html

*Oregon’s governor always reminded me of someone…finally figured it out.


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[Ozarks Tom]

There's no hope for Oregon, the Eastern counties need to push their efforts to join Idaho.

[wildhorseluvr]

Mar 27, 2024 18:28:05 GMT Ozarks Tom said:

There's no hope for Oregon, the Eastern counties need to push their efforts to join Idaho.

The good half of Oregon is great, but you couldn’t get me to even travel through the other half. 

One of my DSil’s siblings and family moved to Portland…they can’t think of a better place to live. 🙄 Their parents moved over here to Idaho and their kids have now cut off contact with them for moving here. ☹️

[Ozarks Tom]

Mar 27, 2024 22:10:56 GMT wildhorseluvr said:

Mar 27, 2024 18:28:05 GMT Ozarks Tom said:

There's no hope for Oregon, the Eastern counties need to push their efforts to join Idaho.

The good half of Oregon is great, but you couldn’t get me to even travel through the other half. 

One of my DSil’s siblings and family moved to Portland…they can’t think of a better place to live. 🙄 Their parents moved over here to Idaho and their kids have now cut off contact with them for moving here. ☹️

As I've mentioned in the past, Sweet Brides daughter and her husband live just outside Seattle.  And yes, there has to be something in the water in both Western parts of both states that drives people into the gentle arms of insanity.  She's a nice enough gal, although she has very little contact with her mother, but in talking to her the Seattle craziness is front and center. 

They're both in their mid-forties, and their lives revolve around snowboarding and trail biking, just like 25 years ago, they've never grown up.

I doubt they have more than tomorrow's food in the house, vote straight democrat whenever the motivation hits them, and live in that "normalcy bias" world that keeps people in office no matter how moronic they are.

[wildhorseluvr]

I just stumbled across this video regarding small farms in Oregon…20 minutes and well worth the time.

[Ozarks Tom]

If it's not always to "Protect the People" it's "if it will save on child". Any critical thinking person knows it's pure BS, but then, dems aren't critical thinkers.

[Ozarks Tom]

A very timely story by Daniel Greenfield (Sultan Knish) regarding government involvement in foods. It's also a very, although exaggerated(?) insight into the eventuality of the expansion of powers by those with no knowledge of what they're "managing".

A Soviet named Lysenko was behind the starvation deaths of million in Russia and Ukraine because he knew best how to grow and distribute "equally". Mao starved millions to death with his "Great Leap Forward" mandating where/when/how to grow food.

Don't think for a second those miserable traits aren't alive and well in those Oregon bureaucrats.

Once upon a time there was a street fair. Then the government created a Ministry of Street Fairs funded by taxing the produce sold at the street fair. At first the Ministry brought some some order to the street fair. But to justify its expansion, it would periodically launch new "street fair initiatives" paid for by higher taxes on the produce. The higher taxes are passed on to customers as higher produce prices and people stop shopping at the street fair.

After some consultation the Ministry of Street Fairs launches an "Emergency Street Fair Stimulus Plan" to promote shopping at the street fair. The stimulus plan offers people credit for shopping at the street fair. But the credit has to be paid for by doubling the price of all the produce. That and the welter of new hidden regulations embedded in the stimulus plan raises expenses for the sellers, who in turn have to raise prices. There is a short term burst of shoppers excited by the credit, which quickly fades away. The credit goes away soon enough too, but the prices stay just as high.

The Ministry of Street Fairs realizes that people are shopping for their produce at supermarkets instead. And it demands that supermarkets also be classified as street fairs, and put under the jurisdiction and tax authority of the Ministry. A Bill is introduced, "The Supermarkets are now Street Fairs" bill, to put supermarkets under the Ministry's authority, and tax them at twice the rate of street fairs. Supporters of the bill denounce the evil "Supermarket Lobby" for profiteering at the expense of the starving children who need fresh fruit and the poor street fair sellers, who wish the Ministry would just go away. The bill passes. The Ministry is congratulated for its commitment to fighting for the right of everyone to buy fruit at vastly inflated prices.
www.danielgreenfield.org/2024/03/the-golden-apple-socialist-fairy-tale.html?utm_source=MadMimi&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Daniel+Greenfield+Article%3A+The+Golden+Apple+-+A+Socialist+Fairy+Tale&utm_campaign=20240328_m180345284_Daniel+Greenfield+Article%3A+%28post_title%29&utm_term=The+Golden+Apple+-+A+Socialist+Fairy+Tale

[wildhorseluvr]

Mar 28, 2024 12:00:08 GMT Ozarks Tom said:

If it's not always to "Protect the People" it's "if it will save on child". Any critical thinking person knows it's pure BS, but then, dems aren't critical thinkers.

Yep. It’s “for the children” (as they slaughter babies by the millions). I used to think Dems were simply lacking logic and common sense, until I realized most are simply evil. 

[laurazone5]

All Oregon groundwater, even on private property, considered public


This is my take away.

They, those in power, all of them, are playing God.
They 'think' they control the rain from the sky.

Stalin much?