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Post by fordy on Oct 30, 2015 19:26:50 GMT
...........Russia is bombing the Anti Assad groups directly supported by Saudia's , Turkey and the US ! When Russia invaded Afghanistan the CIA furnished the Mujah Haddean(sp) with the Stinger , shoulder fired anti aircraft missile which has ~ a 5 mile range . They were blowing those Russian helo's and jets out of the sky . So , given the fact that Obama doesn't want to supply it's preferred rebel groups with the Stinger directly to create a direct conflict with Russia , why can't we do it indirectly ? ...........The answer (I think) is to sell Stingers to the Saudia's , and let them supply the Rebel groups who , can then , try and see how effective they are against the Russian air force planes . Of course this is a two way street , i.e. , the Russians can supply it's missiles to Assad's troops and attempt to shoot down American jets as well !, fordy
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Post by sawmilljim on Oct 30, 2015 22:18:32 GMT
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Oct 30, 2015 22:50:29 GMT
I can't for the life of me see what our goal is there. If the "rebels" boot Assad out, we'll have another Libya/Yemen - a country full of terrorists. If we defeat ISIS in Iraq, and Russia defeats the rebels and ISIS in Syria, we've got a face off with Russia. If we just help Iraq defeat ISIS, and Russia defeats the rebels and ISIS in Syria, Iran gets a clean sweep of Iraq and Syria.
There's no upside for us. I hate the idea of thousands of people dying, but in truth thousands are going to die with or without us. I don't know if I'm being a fatalist, a realist, or a pragmatist, but these people have been killing each other for nearly 1500 years, I don't see any way to stop them anymore than we can stop the rain. It's near certain we're going to have to fight the winner.
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Post by poppy on Oct 30, 2015 22:58:41 GMT
You are right Tom. There is no way we or the region will be better off for our meddling to oust Assad. Obama says he is now going to put special ops people into Syria to help the kurds. Obama never had a strategy to fight ISIS but he is now trying to show he is relevant since Russia is gaining influence. He's a day late and a dollar short.
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Post by sawmilljim on Oct 30, 2015 23:39:58 GMT
O's new strategy is send troops over put then on a bulls eye so Russia can't miss them and start WWIII .I think he is that stupid .
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Post by themotherhen on Oct 31, 2015 3:42:05 GMT
Jim, respectfully, I do not think he is stupid. I think he is making a concerted effort to destabilize our country and the world. Everything is happening and dovetailing too perfectly for this not to be a plan.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste"
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