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Post by paisley on Aug 12, 2016 6:35:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 13:50:06 GMT
Only one walked out??? Oh, merciful God in heaven... A satanic congregation in a town not far from here is requesting space in the local elementary school for an after-school club.
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Post by whereiwant2b on Aug 12, 2016 15:04:54 GMT
It apparently is more an expression of contempt for religion than anything approaching faith as the invocation was 'hold fast to that which is demonstrably true," which is the opposite of faith.
We are all stuck in a Saturday Night Live nightmare world.
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Post by themotherhen on Aug 12, 2016 21:50:45 GMT
paisley, that is truly horrifying, I will pray for your town, and you.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Aug 13, 2016 0:17:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 0:19:58 GMT
Deuteronomy 31:6 Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the Lord your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you.”
2 Timothy 1:7: For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 0:42:13 GMT
The discussion following is so tiresome. Obligatory atheist who won't do his own research and thinking, quoting the founding fathers and the Bible out of context, and the easily baited Christians who aren't doing much better in research or thinking. <sigh>
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Post by sawmilljim on Aug 13, 2016 14:30:35 GMT
On a happy note one person walked out . My thoughts those that were already on Satan's side stayed,no other way to see it . This to me is one of those defining moments where if one an't against then staying is affirming their consent . Now days one out of many is just normal my fear is it is just the start . Then when at some point a huge calamity strikes everyone looks on in amusement saying that couldn't be God's judgement on a evil nation .
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Post by whereiwant2b on Aug 13, 2016 14:58:44 GMT
It was an arrogant display of power by those whose only goal is to cut out any public display of even a whiff of faith of every kind. It is not that they had any faith themselves- as was perfectly clear- but that they have zero tolerance for anyone that does. They were probably very pleased with themselves for misusing the historically acceptable invocation to get a platform for showing their intolerance.
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Post by joebill on Aug 13, 2016 15:00:27 GMT
Much simpler and probably a dang sight more usefull if whoever is chairing the meeting would simply call it to to order and say "let us all take a moment to ask God, each in his or her own way, to bless our efforts here with wisdom and courage"
Wait 30 seconds and gavel the meeting to order. Not every prayer needs a star player to utter it. The conflict seems to be over who gets to deliver a mini-sermon to a bunch of folks who are captive. Eliminate the conflict, deliver a whole collection of prayers to the Creator, get down to business....Joe
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Post by whereiwant2b on Aug 13, 2016 16:01:17 GMT
Unfortunately the response would be to sue over the word God. The purported Satanists don't believe in God.
The point has been reached that a few anti religious people have misused what is essentially the tolerance of those they hate to force everyone to conform to their own beliefs- or lack of them. The tail has taken over by wagging the dog. They need to be xalled out for their own intolerance as that is the ideal they have substituted for God.
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Post by joebill on Aug 13, 2016 18:10:11 GMT
Let them sue. They have the opportunjity to ask the entity THEY pray to for wisdom and courage the same as everybody else. I bet the best lawyer in the country would defend me pro bono, and if I lost, my book would keep me fed for the rest of my life...Joe
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Post by paisley on Aug 14, 2016 5:54:37 GMT
Much simpler and probably a dang sight more usefull if whoever is chairing the meeting would simply call it to to order and say "let us all take a moment to ask God, each in his or her own way, to bless our efforts here with wisdom and courage" Wait 30 seconds and gavel the meeting to order. Not every prayer needs a star player to utter it. The conflict seems to be over who gets to deliver a mini-sermon to a bunch of folks who are captive. Eliminate the conflict, deliver a whole collection of prayers to the Creator, get down to business....Joe That would be Blaine gilman......the one who stired the pot to begin with. He is a rino Clinton type. From a founding family but well, if it was not for his last name...he would simply be a local small lawyer who is thought to be jealous of a brother who is a Washington do well lawyer... Well, good for him he made the news. He just lost big with the conservative folks who voted by name recognition. This certainly woke up a few of them. Heard things like ....he's nothing like his father.... Word on the street is discuss. Good I hope he cooked His goose and not for all assembly candidates will be faced with .....what will you pledge to do when faced with the freedom of speech for showmanship. Will you show respect for freedom of speach and the freedom chose to stay or walk out for the if you are discussed.
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