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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 2, 2016 17:00:07 GMT
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 2, 2016 17:06:29 GMT
sawmilljim , There is an old Indian sign, take your hands, hold them in front of your eyes palms facing your eyes fingers lightly spread pointing up, about 1 to 2 inches in front of your face. Now with mostly wrist action bend your right wrist so your right fingers are in front of your left eye and your left wrist so your left fingers are in front of your right eye, so that your hands cross, palms still facing your face, right hand closest to your face, left hand behind the right. In Indian sign language this is the symbol for not being able to see through fog, smoke, or mental blindness. When I read some threads out of frustration I make this gesture to myself, I think you'd appreciate knowing how to make it. Thanks I am starting to understand now .After watching Mark Dice last night it dawned on me what your were saying ! Here is the problom in a nut shell. Hillary Supporters Hope She'll LOWER the STANDARD of LIVING if Elected President!! It gets better . Richard Nixon is Running For President in 2016 Election? These People Think So!
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Post by joebill on Nov 2, 2016 20:51:29 GMT
I was pretty sure that there were planes there. Almost sure that they hit the buildings, dang sure the buildings fell down.
If something else brought down the buildings, why bother with the planes? Still could have blamed it on anybody they wanted, planes or no planes.
No planes, it would have been easier to blame it on conservatives.
When a twister took out the federal building in Cimarron, post office included, I started a rumor that credit was being claimed by a right wing prayer group, and some folks bought it.
That wind didn't even have an aluminum wing helping it. sturdy building....gone. You can find pics of pine boards penetrating oak trees if the velocity is enough. A soft, squishy human can penetrate a metal roof if he has a good head start, with a terminal falling velocity around 350 MPH....Joe
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 2, 2016 20:56:16 GMT
sawmilljim, You didn't answer my question, there were no airplanes? If there were airplanes, then the question of whether they could do it is moot, isn't it? It can't be argued the planes exceeded their capabilities by remote control if pilots can't override the system themselves, if pilots can override the system there' no point to the claim. Don't bother telling me the systems were hacked before hand, why would they need to do that if they have skilled remote pilots? The guy who wrote the essay you linked to is a seriously disturbed person. He blames Israel, the White House, Big Oil, the CIA, FBI, NTSB, State Department, and probably a couple more organizations, while at the same time giving muslim terrorists a pass. My gosh, he even mentions Israeli spies in Mexico, as if that has anything to do with anything. He needs to get back on his meds. Let me tell you about some engineers I've known. I hired one to catch boards on the stupid side of a saw. He'd worked at LTV designing the space station, before he cooked his brain with drugs. The guy who remodeled my house before I bought it designed things that went to the moon (I know, you don't believe that either). He lapped the tar paper from the top down, lapped the gutters backwards so they leaked, the dining room wall was 1 1/2" out of plumb. Another set the gradient for a sewage line on a K-mart so the pipe would be 6' above the road when it got there, flowing uphill. But, the first thing they all tell you when you meet them is "I'm an engineer". Nope, most times are just what they seem to be.
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 2, 2016 21:43:39 GMT
Well Tom I guess they put enough fright into building 7 or joebill's wind took it down. Even the Pentagon the hole don't match a commercial plane and no bodies ! Your person saying they are a engineer and being one is two different things . Those so called pilots were about as good as your engineer . Also if TPTB wanted they had the means to shoot them down. As John Lear did point out .Facts are those asbestos laden buildings are gone along with tons of gold, the Patriot Act got passed and preputal war got declared and Silverstein got richer . It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings. [Arctic www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/silverstein.htmlWitnesses say this It [WTC 2] started exploding," said Ross Milanytch, 57, who works at nearby Chase Manhattan Bank. "It was about the 70th floor. And each second another floor exploded out for about eight floors, before the cloud obscured it all." [ASNE] "I saw small explosions on each floor." [Wing TV] www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc2_cutter.htmlFacts to some are like facts about Clinton to democrat voters . Another fact TPTB know is if they can put a Obelisk,at the capitol and call it the Washington Monument the people are dumb enough to fall for anything.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 2, 2016 22:48:22 GMT
Sorry Jim, you're going to have to come up with something better than www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc2_cutter.html. As far as Mr Milanytch, I guess believing him over the many video shots of the buildings collapsing makes some folks happy, but if you can watch the videos and see 8 seconds of consecutive explosions you're seeing something nobody else has seen. I can guarantee the "engineers" I described were indeed what they claimed. Just like architects who believe in skyhooks, common sense doesn't seem to be a common trait among them. I wonder if it's occurred to Mr Dice that in order to build something above 4 stories in the early 1800's, without the benefit of steel girders that hadn't been invented yet, a stone structure like an obelisk is about the only thing that could achieve those heights. Probably not. Gee, since the Illuminati have been around for all these centuries, you'd think they'd have done a better job by now. I mean, how many centuries does it take an "all powerful" bunch to get the job done? By the way - planes, yes or no?
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 3, 2016 1:28:28 GMT
No planes! Also you apparently don't know or understand what a obelisk is or what it represents.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 3, 2016 2:25:17 GMT
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 3, 2016 3:14:08 GMT
Try this one . The word 'obelisk' literally means 'Baal's shaft' or Baal's organ of reproduction' www.christian-restoration.com/fmasonry/obelisks.htmMore fitting monument for Bill Clinton than Ol George . But the thing I was pointing out any people that allow such to be placed in their country willing believing it to be a good thing will fall for anything they are told. The NWO has been in the works since before the days of Rome . I think they run tests now and again just to be sure the people are dumbed down to their liking .If they find people don't fall for one of their tests they try a different method at a later date. From all indications time is getting shorter every passing day. The sad part is the common person is the ones going to suffer the most . Many on these forums are stocking food ect for what ever reason they see fit . I don't think many have a clue the horror the NWO people are capable of bringing to this country. At least some are a little awake . While we are watching football and playing election the world is getting closer to WWIII by the second ,will the clock pause or is this the time ? Most look at one isolated thing while never seeing the big picture unfolding right in front of them .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 3:35:57 GMT
Try this one . The word 'obelisk' literally means 'Baal's shaft' or Baal's organ of reproduction' www.christian-restoration.com/fmasonry/obelisks.htmMore fitting monument for Bill Clinton than Ol George . But the thing I was pointing out any people that allow such to be placed in their country willing believing it to be a good thing will fall for anything they are told. The NWO has been in the works since before the days of Rome . I think they run tests now and again just to be sure the people are dumbed down to their liking .If they find people don't fall for one of their tests they try a different method at a later date. From all indications time is getting shorter every passing day. The sad part is the common person is the ones going to suffer the most . Many on these forums are stocking food ect for what ever reason they see fit . I don't think many have a clue the horror the NWO people are capable of bringing to this country. At least some are a little awake . While we are watching football and playing election the world is getting closer to WWIII by the second ,will the clock pause or is this the time ? Most look at one isolated thing while never seeing the big picture unfolding right in front of them .
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Nov 4, 2016 5:20:23 GMT
Try this one . The word 'obelisk' literally means 'Baal's shaft' or Baal's organ of reproduction' www.christian-restoration.com/fmasonry/obelisks.htmMore fitting monument for Bill Clinton than Ol George . But the thing I was pointing out any people that allow such to be placed in their country willing believing it to be a good thing will fall for anything they are told. The NWO has been in the works since before the days of Rome . I think they run tests now and again just to be sure the people are dumbed down to their liking .If they find people don't fall for one of their tests they try a different method at a later date. From all indications time is getting shorter every passing day. The sad part is the common person is the ones going to suffer the most . Many on these forums are stocking food ect for what ever reason they see fit . I don't think many have a clue the horror the NWO people are capable of bringing to this country. At least some are a little awake . While we are watching football and playing election the world is getting closer to WWIII by the second ,will the clock pause or is this the time ? Most look at one isolated thing while never seeing the big picture unfolding right in front of them . What is that supposed to be proof of and why is it necessary to post it in numerous threads?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 10:46:41 GMT
What is that supposed to be proof of and why is it necessary to post it in numerous threads? Two threads is not exactly numerous threads. A little honesty would be nice.
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Nov 4, 2016 14:26:10 GMT
What is that supposed to be proof of and why is it necessary to post it in numerous threads? Two threads is not exactly numerous threads. A little honesty would be nice. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! You are suddenly on the "Truth and Honesty when posting" bandwagon? OK.... You are right! The word "numerous" does imply more than just two, but it also happened to be in two threads that I opened one right after the other. So you may be able to see why I just assumed that it was also posted in "numerous" other threads. My Bad!!! That is unless you did something sneaky like having gone back and deleted it from other threads. Don't worry... I am not going to go back and check, as it is not worth it. But that was what you thought was the only response needed? Why did you neglect to elaborate on the reasons for posting it on two threads? And why not answer the first part of the question, which was actually the more important part, so to speak? What was that "Proven Conspiracies" thing supposed to be proof of?
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