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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 3, 2016 2:37:38 GMT
Whoa! I was skeptical until I saw it on Alex Jones. What more reliable source could there be?
Oh, has he interviewed any of those people with gills bred especially for UDT in England yet?
I'm obviously slipping, this should definitely have been moved to area 52 when it was posted. That's where it's going now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 3:59:23 GMT
I dislike the Clintons. They are arrogant, self indulgent and dishonest. But I don't think they would attempt an actual coup by any means other than hectoring and lecturing the public while thinking themselves above the law. Aided by the media, who refuses to report their awful behavior and deceit lest the liberal agenda be damaged. A lot of Jews in Europe, during WWII, did not believe they were being packed off to the concentration/death camps. They, too, did not want to believe the awful truth, and chose to think of the rumors as untrue. The NAZIS thought they were above the law too and they changed those laws which did not suit them. The media in Germany, circa 1942-1945, did not broadcast to the world how many were in concentration camps or how many were killed. Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it, although perhaps in a slightly different way. However, make no mistake, good Germans lost their nation for 12 years, through complacency. The Holocaust, for example, was a thing many Jews could not bring themselves to believe was actually happening, until it was too late. It has gone well beyond contemplating whether the Clintons and their backers would do it (take over the institutions of the U.S. Federal Government, place their people in key positions, and rule); they are doing it. Will Trump and his supporters, with help from those in the intelligence community and others in the American public, stop them? Who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 4:08:25 GMT
I dislike the Clintons. They are arrogant, self indulgent and dishonest. But I don't think they would attempt an actual coup by any means other than hectoring and lecturing the public while thinking themselves above the law. Aided by the media, who refuses to report their awful behavior and deceit lest the liberal agenda be damaged.
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 3, 2016 4:48:18 GMT
I dislike the Clintons. They are arrogant, self indulgent and dishonest. But I don't think they would attempt an actual coup by any means other than hectoring and lecturing the public while thinking themselves above the law. Aided by the media, who refuses to report their awful behavior and deceit lest the liberal agenda be damaged. Well the simple answer is they bought everyone in one way or another ahead of time preparing for their take over .The ultimate goal the country then the world Hillary Bill and the new world order . As to where one gets information it appears to me anyway are kin to the guy that hates peas ,he could have the best soup in the world but let him find one pea and he tosses it all out the window . Since propaganda is legal to use now many would prefer to remain uninformed than sift out the peas . ALL news media is now under Govt control if one waits on the big media they will have a long wait.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 9:41:27 GMT
Whoa! I was skeptical until I saw it on Alex Jones. What more reliable source could there be? Oh, has he interviewed any of those people with gills bred especially for UDT in England yet? I'm obviously slipping, this should definitely have been moved to area 52 when it was posted. That's where it's going now. The truth is the truth, no matter who you hear it from. Also, you seem more concerned with who is asking the questions than who is giving the answers [shakes head]. "Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him."-Acts 10:34-35, Holy Bible, King James Version (KJV)
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Post by blackfeather on Nov 3, 2016 16:55:57 GMT
The Clinton coup is about gaining the office of president by deceit, not military over throw. Once there using corruption to get her way. As far as I can tell, the "soft counter coup" is about the release of information, and as you may notice with in 24 hours FBI leaks have hit the news saying Hillary et-al are going down. Some of the information is supposed to be given to wiki-leaks. I think after Trump gets into office, (as of now I can't see how Hillary could win) his first year will be consumed with prosecuting corruption. Weiner's computer could bring down congressmen and senators, judges and possibly past presidents. It will be an interesting time.
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Post by whereiwant2b on Nov 3, 2016 18:07:42 GMT
The Clinton coup is about gaining the office of president by deceit, not military over throw. Once there using corruption to get her way. As far as I can tell, the "soft counter coup" is about the release of information, and as you may notice with in 24 hours FBI leaks have hit the news saying Hillary et-al are going down. Some of the information is supposed to be given to wiki-leaks. I think after Trump gets into office, (as of now I can't see how Hillary could win) his first year will be consumed with prosecuting corruption. Weiner's computer could bring down congressmen and senators, judges and possibly past presidents. It will be an interesting time. As far as I can tell, the Clintons, her supporters and her press are still in denial. And Trump, his supporters and his press are still in accusing mode. They periodically switch places. Nothing new. If the public is so eager to make much of this, then of course every rumor, innuendo or bit of gossip is evidence of a conspiracy. I'm sure there are people in government pursuing their own agenda as they can. Calling this a coup is like calling every breeze a tornado. Some breezes do turn into tornados but getting so exercised over every breeze because it can is just too exhausting. Maybe we just have different definitions of coup. I see a coup as the physical taking over of points of power. To me dirty tricks is just normal election politics. In other words an election campaign.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 19:28:12 GMT
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 3, 2016 21:17:03 GMT
The Clinton coup is about gaining the office of president by deceit, not military over throw. Once there using corruption to get her way. As far as I can tell, the "soft counter coup" is about the release of information, and as you may notice with in 24 hours FBI leaks have hit the news saying Hillary et-al are going down. Some of the information is supposed to be given to wiki-leaks. I think after Trump gets into office, (as of now I can't see how Hillary could win) his first year will be consumed with prosecuting corruption. Weiner's computer could bring down congressmen and senators, judges and possibly past presidents. It will be an interesting time. As far as I can tell, the Clintons, her supporters and her press are still in denial. And Trump, his supporters and his press are still in accusing mode. They periodically switch places. Nothing new. If the public is so eager to make much of this, then of course every rumor, innuendo or bit of gossip is evidence of a conspiracy. I'm sure there are people in government pursuing their own agenda as they can. Calling this a coup is like calling every breeze a tornado. Some breezes do turn into tornados but getting so exercised over every breeze because it can is just too exhausting. Maybe we just have different definitions of coup. I see a coup as the physical taking over of points of power. To me dirty tricks is just normal election politics. In other words an election campaign. Soft coup is supposed to be more internal than a hard coup where the Generals take over by armed force .To my thinking some are trying to prevent the Clintons takeover before the guns come out ,not that the people have enough will to do so .
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Nov 3, 2016 23:48:15 GMT
This has been bugging me for quite a while and I have to ask this finally...
If we are to "question everything", as many here advise us to...
If we are to not believe everything that we read on the interweb, as many here advise us to...
If we should not believe anything that the MSM publish as the "alleged" truth, as many here advise us to...
Why is it that those same people become upset when their versions of the "truth" are questioned?
Like I said, this is just something that has been bugging me for a while.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 3, 2016 23:56:29 GMT
Okay, let me get this straight. We're supposed to take as gospel an article in the Russian Times denying complicity? I have no idea who's feeding Wikileaks, but please don't use RT as a credible source.
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 4, 2016 0:52:17 GMT
Okay, let me get this straight. We're supposed to take as gospel an article in the Russian Times denying complicity? I have no idea who's feeding Wikileaks, but please don't use RT as a credible source. Any why not even a blind hog finds a acorn now and again.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 4, 2016 2:34:45 GMT
sawmilljim, Okay, I admit it. I'm the source for Wikileaks. Why not believe me, I've never lied to you (that you know about), but RT sure has. My gosh, they're part of the Russian government, does anyone really think they'd admit to any wrong doing?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 2:54:00 GMT
sawmilljim , Okay, I admit it. I'm the source for Wikileaks. Why not believe me, I've never lied to you (that you know about), but RT sure has. My gosh, they're part of the Russian government, does anyone really think they'd admit to any wrong doing? I do think RT is far more truthful about what is happening in the United States of America than most of our American main stream media. Even Fox News is becoming soft and liberal leaning. Megyn Kelly is a joke. You do know that much of what is found in the American main stream media if spoon fed to it from the American government. The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, even Hollywood, etc., are propaganda arms of the Democrat and Republican parties. From those useful idiots, the lies are spread to hundreds of other news outlets around the country and the world. When was the last time The New York Times admitted to a mistake and issued a retraction? Wikileaks Exposes Collusion Between Clinton Campaign, State Department, And New York Times
www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/wikileaks-exposes-collusion-between-clinton-campaign-state-department-and-new-york-t
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 4, 2016 3:38:31 GMT
sawmilljim , Okay, I admit it. I'm the source for Wikileaks. Why not believe me, I've never lied to you (that you know about), but RT sure has. My gosh, they're part of the Russian government, does anyone really think they'd admit to any wrong doing? Do I have any reason not to believe you ? I have known some stranger people than you .One of my old buddies was one of Richard Nixon's top yes men . He retired the same time Nixon left office . He even had a photo of Nixon with a note wrote on it by Nixon . This guy slept with a Teck 9 with 32 round magazine close at hand too. And you don't think our Govt. owns and or controls the media in this country . They were even caught spending tons of money on making war propaganda movies . Did you forget propaganda is now legal in the US ?
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