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Post by Tim Horton on Apr 9, 2020 3:10:49 GMT
Um.. I guess there isn't a thread like this, so here goes.. There seems to be a tractor thread of sorts.. But this is different, in my opinion..
A tractor without implements is a fun, but slow ride to town..
On my April "to do" list is figure up how much steel to buy as I had a deal with the welding shop at the tech college to fab some things.. Have plans for some simple 3 point tillage implements that would be extra projects for students to do over and above there mandatory stuff.. The shop was happy to do this about this time of year as it worked into there schedule.. But all is on hold now with the virus... Bugger...
I figured it all out and got prices today.. About $1000 in material should make me about $3000 in small simple implements if purchased individually..
I think I will get the steel as I can have all the parts ready for when they do come back to the shop..
One implement is a 3pt universal frame that you can attach chisel plow shanks and a number of tillage and cultivation options to.. One frame to do several jobs.. I have built this frame before, so know it will do many things.. One thing is a version of what is called a pasture renovator.. Another a frame for tree felling and log skidding.
Our friend with the butcher shops has a mobile farm kill clean, to halves trailer. From working with him to rig a way to lift a beef, I'm going to build a stand and arm to suspend a steer from the 3pt of the tractor.. Will also work well if we or neighbors gets a moose or bear as they are a bugger to clean and butcher on the ground...
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 9, 2020 12:02:09 GMT
When I bought my little 8n it was strictly for maintaining our mile and a half of gravel road, since nobody else would do it. I got a box blade and a grading blade with it, which was all I needed. Since then, being the prepper I am, I've picked up a two-bottom plow and a 5 point spring harrow if I ever decide we need a bigger garden. Old implements are plentiful, and cheap. I did build one device though for the Bronco to turn it into a 3-point hitch capable machine. I've only used it with the grading blade, but could easily use it with any 3-point implement.
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Post by Jolly on Apr 9, 2020 12:13:05 GMT
I wish old implements were plentiful and cheap down here. A two bottom plow would be nice.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 9, 2020 20:33:39 GMT
Jolly, The two bottom plow and spring harrow together were $300. Found them on Craigslist.
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Post by Jolly on Apr 9, 2020 21:46:02 GMT
A decent new 2-bottom plow will run $1200. You almost never see them used down here and when you do, they want waaay too much for them.
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Post by Tim Horton on Apr 10, 2020 0:39:59 GMT
A decent new 2-bottom plow will run $1200. You almost never see them used down here and when you do, they want waaay too much for them. ++++ Same here... Rarely will anything that isn't pure junk be near.. Then at a premium price..
I can have my BIL in northern Alberta get things way cheaper than here.. But he does a quarter to half a million $ a year with his local JD dealer... They get him anything he wants.. quick...
Cheaper to have him get things and drive 1000 km round trip to get stuff cheaper than freight to here. Crazy sometimes...
I'm still looking for a 6" pto wood chipper.. I can find good enough deals, just not the "sweet" deal I know is around somewhere...
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Post by DEKE on Apr 10, 2020 2:41:49 GMT
At our local monthly farm auction, there is almost always a plow of some sorts and smaller ones for compact tractors are rarely over $100.
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Post by daw on Apr 10, 2020 11:25:14 GMT
Left here by a previous owner is a three point item. It is yellow, and heavy, straight tubular steel for the top and straight tubular steel steel going down. Think of a giant comb... No curve to it any where, could well imagine if in soft ground it would sink and the tractor stop. Seems a shame for it to go salvage
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 10, 2020 12:24:11 GMT
Left here by a previous owner is a three point item. It is yellow, and heavy, straight tubular steel for the top and straight tubular steel steel going down. Think of a giant comb... No curve to it any where, could well imagine if in soft ground it would sink and the tractor stop. Seems a shame for it to go salvage
Sounds like a rock rake, used for dressing driveways, etc. Doublecheck the right nomenclature, take a picture, and put it on Craigslist.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 10, 2020 12:25:19 GMT
Jolly , Sounds like I need to start loading my trailer with 3-point implements, hauling them down to you, and we'll make a bundle!
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Post by joebill on Apr 17, 2020 2:30:37 GMT
Before I bought my TC 45 New Holland, I was asking a new salesman at the JD dealer in Safford AZ what sized used one I should shop for and told him the stuff I would be doing with it.
He told me I should pick up a 4020 John Deere, and that I could find anything I needed for it cheap. I called around a bit and found NADA and called him back and told him so. He was dumbfounded! He had just hired on there and was from the Midwest, where they were almost going for scrap prices. Last time I talked to him he was arguing with himself over whether he should continue trying to sell new JD tractors in the middle of the desert or buy a truck and trailer and start buying them cheap back yonder and selling them high right around here.
Only JD I have seen over the last 20 years, other than compacts and lawn mowers was pushing new roads for a subdivision near Santa Fe, and doing a better job than a lot of cat skinners could have done with a D-8.
It would take a really tractor-wise guy to deal used equipment between states, but I am pretty sure the right guy could get rich doing it....Joe
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 17, 2020 3:01:29 GMT
In our area, driving along well traveled two lane roads it's not uncommon to see a 2-3 acre field filled with old implements for sale.
Even of less traveled roads you'll see a dozen or more old plows, harrows, bale spikes sitting along the fence line with a big "For Sale" sign.
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Post by joebill on Apr 19, 2020 16:45:12 GMT
I used to sell parts to a lot of rural tractor and implement dealers, and when I discovered one I had missed tucked back into a corner in a small town, I started calling on them and enjoyed a fair amount of new business. That was in the fall, and the one guy who was always present when I called on them was what you might expect...farmer type with his chair pulled up to the wood stove in the sales area, always BS ing with somebody about tractors and such or holding forth on mechanical issues, so I came to think of him as the owner, but it was always the parts guy who gave me the orders. Finally, I came up with a deal on a piece of diagnostic equipment that would only be appropriate to discuss with the owner, and tried talking to the service manager to see if he would bring the owner in on it. Surprisingly, I got the order without any consultation with the guy in the front room. When I finally doped out what was going on, I found that the guy sitting by the stove all winter was a local farmer trying to chisel a deal on a new tractor and willing to spend the whole winter in everybody's way, hoping they would get tired of having him around and meet his price. The service manager WAS the owner.... I recall that most of the lot was taken up with old implements for sale as described by Tom. They might still be sitting there, and the events described above were around 1968... ….Joe
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Post by Jolly on Apr 19, 2020 17:14:16 GMT
Jolly , Sounds like I need to start loading my trailer with 3-point implements, hauling them down to you, and we'll make a bundle!
Maybe because most guys around here rarely used plows, but mostly used discs and hippers for gardening. But sometimes you need to break up Harlan and you need a plow for that.
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Post by Tim Horton on Jun 2, 2020 23:53:36 GMT
What I did yesterday.....
Yesterday I finely got the winter chains off the tractor.. I put on the sub soil digger shank and made checker board cuts in the ground around 5 small pine trees in the upper pasture.. Earlier this spring I put rabbit barn cleanings round the trees to help feed them a little.. The cuts in the ground are to let water get deeper into the ground.. I've read it helps.. Will see..
Finishing with the sub soil shank, I put on the brush hog mower.. Made a couple rounds of the pastures to mow some wild rose and bush brush encroaching back into the pasture..
Now all last night and today it has rained to about 4cm in the gauge.. Hope it helps..
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