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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2020 21:43:54 GMT
Not local to me (and not even really my family) but this is my nephew's girlfriend on the front page of The Gateway Pundit: www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/salon-owner-shelley-luther-rips-citation-dallas-rally-breaks-quarantine-opens-business-video/Nephew has been posting on Facebook about a crowdfunding campaign to pay for lawyers to defend them and sue their local and state government. Good for them if they think they're doing what's right, but not so much that I'm going to chip in. I'd have to be more convinced they're right. Looks like the clientele has shifted...most of the guys in line don't look like the type who normally get their hair cut at salons.
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Post by Jolly on Apr 26, 2020 21:56:10 GMT
The more hands-on the job and the more people interacted with on a daily basis, the higher the chance of transmitting the virus. Beauticians rank in the top ten, maybe the top five, of catching or transmitting the virus.
I can understand her plight, but some serious protocols would have to be in place, in order for her to keep everybody safe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 1:18:07 GMT
Seems to be more of a political statement than actual hardship making her do it. She said it was all about her stylists who wanted to get back to work, but then she opened and only 2 out of 17 showed up.
Like I said, I'm not chipping in to help them. I don't think they're completely wrong, but I'm not convinced it's the smartest thing to do. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite them. Texas is just past half-way through its infection cycle.
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Post by themotherhen on Apr 30, 2020 2:04:11 GMT
Seems to be more of a political statement than actual hardship making her do it. She said it was all about her stylists who wanted to get back to work, but then she opened and only 2 out of 17 showed up. Like I said, I'm not chipping in to help them. I don't think they're completely wrong, but I'm not convinced it's the smartest thing to do. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite them. Texas is just past half-way through its infection cycle. That infection cycle starts again the day they reopen everything, unless the majority of the population already has been infected and has enough antibodies to not get re-infected. The problem as I see it is we just don't know enough yet, and the Chinese aren't sharing data that would help.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 22:47:33 GMT
She's on Hannity tonight. Guess I'll have to watch that for the first time in years. I don't even know the girl, only met her once, but nephew is posting so much about their fight with Texas that I figure I should hear her out.
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Post by themotherhen on May 1, 2020 23:34:02 GMT
@jtb, I am both shocked and appalled that you have rebellious behavior in your family. I would never have guessed 😉
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 17:11:15 GMT
Well, they showed her salon for a brief moment, but apparently cut her interview unless I missed it. Can't say that's a bad thing, as maybe the attention has been skewing her judgment a bit.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 2:33:12 GMT
Who is she hurting?
If someone wants her hair cut/styled, she has the right to go and get that done. Both the stylist and customer have been told of the possibility of contracting any virus floating around, Wuhan Flu or not. If they choose to take the risk, then so what?
I say, good on her.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 12:24:10 GMT
Seems to be more of a political statement than actual hardship making her do it. She said it was all about her stylists who wanted to get back to work, but then she opened and only 2 out of 17 showed up. Like I said, I'm not chipping in to help them. I don't think they're completely wrong, but I'm not convinced it's the smartest thing to do. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite them. Texas is just past half-way through its infection cycle.How do you know? The stats they spout are completely worthless. The tested population is hardly indicative of the population at large.
If you look at the CDC's stats (I started a thread with a link), you'll see that the numbers are nowhere near the projections.
I am not denying that the Wuhan Flu exists. I'm not denying that there is a pandemic.
I am saying that numbers and people are being manipulated.
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Post by Tricky Grama on May 3, 2020 12:49:49 GMT
She's on Hannity tonight. Guess I'll have to watch that for the first time in years. I don't even know the girl, only met her once, but nephew is posting so much about their fight with Texas that I figure I should hear her out. Shoot, didn't know she was gonna be on. How did it go?
Eta: just read your other post. Wonder why the interview was edited...
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 17:58:02 GMT
Seems to be more of a political statement than actual hardship making her do it. She said it was all about her stylists who wanted to get back to work, but then she opened and only 2 out of 17 showed up. Like I said, I'm not chipping in to help them. I don't think they're completely wrong, but I'm not convinced it's the smartest thing to do. I just hope it doesn't come back to bite them. Texas is just past half-way through its infection cycle.How do you know? The stats they spout are completely worthless. The tested population is hardly indicative of the population at large.
If you look at the CDC's stats (I started a thread with a link), you'll see that the numbers are nowhere near the projections.
I am not denying that the Wuhan Flu exists. I'm not denying that there is a pandemic.
I am saying that numbers and people are being manipulated.
Well, I can't answer that if I can't use the numbers, but I think they're qualitatively fairly accurate even if not quantitatively. The models predicted the Texas peak quite closely, within a day. So I'd say that's worth something. Now they're on the other side, new infections going down, with deaths lagging infection by a bit since those who die take some time to do it.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 18:01:59 GMT
Who is she hurting? If someone wants her hair cut/styled, she has the right to go and get that done. Both the stylist and customer have been told of the possibility of contracting any virus floating around, Wuhan Flu or not. If they choose to take the risk, then so what? I say, good on her. I'm sure she'd love a donation to her Go Fund Me campaign if you're in the mood.... They've already raised over $20k. They also have people flying in from other states to get their hair cut and leaving big tips...it's been a boon for business, but I hope for their sake (health and legal) that no outbreaks get traced back to the salon.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 18:06:19 GMT
How do you know? The stats they spout are completely worthless. The tested population is hardly indicative of the population at large.
If you look at the CDC's stats (I started a thread with a link), you'll see that the numbers are nowhere near the projections.
I am not denying that the Wuhan Flu exists. I'm not denying that there is a pandemic.
I am saying that numbers and people are being manipulated.
Well, I can't answer that if I can't use the numbers, but I think they're qualitatively fairly accurate even if not quantitatively. The models predicted the Texas peak quite closely, within a day. So I'd say that's worth something. Now they're on the other side, new infections going down, with deaths lagging infection by a bit since those who die take some time to do it. Unless and until they get a solid cross-section, the data are worth no more than a bit of flatus in a strong breeze.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 19:04:41 GMT
So even after they correctly predicted the peak, it's still worth nothing? That's fine, but it informs my opinions.
So far, TX has had 800+ deaths, and they're several days past the peak. That means they're likely in for maybe 300-500 more over this month. And infections peaked before deaths so they're now in the homestretch. I find that to be useful info, and it gives me optimism about the situation since the worst is over.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on May 3, 2020 20:11:59 GMT
Reading today, I think in the explanatory notes in Pony's article, that the death count is running on average about a week late due to the complications of further documentation as to the cause being COVID.
We might as well face the fact that this crap is not going away entirely, and clusters are going to continue to crop up from here on out, just like the regular flu or common cold. Sort of gets a person into a fatalistic frame of mind when they're mid-seventies with a couple health problems.
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