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Post by farmrbrown on Dec 26, 2020 4:42:18 GMT
I'm glad your SIL survived, but I can't understand why ANYONE who had caught and survived a virus would EVER take a vaccine for that virus. Hopefully they will yank the medical licenses of the doctors who prescribe it for those cases.
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Post by UseLess on Dec 26, 2020 14:37:19 GMT
What I've read says this vaccine is more like flu vaccines. Unlike those for measles, mumps, chicken pox, it doesn't convey long-term immunity. It can help some to not catch the virus, and can reduce the severity in others who do catch it. So far, a few cases of allergic reactions, and a few days of symptoms like you mention, appear to be the far end of the bell curve of reactions to the vaccine. An argument in favor of those who've had the disease taking the vaccine is that until it has been around for a longer time, what immunity antibodies confer can't be known, though some educated-guesses based on other, similar diseases can be made.
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Post by daw on Dec 26, 2020 14:53:47 GMT
Saying that we will have it for a decade. If they keep turning more of the virus loose sure, It is what the big three wanted isn’t it? If they were thrown in prison I wonder how quickly it would die!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 16:34:24 GMT
Wouldn't it make more sense to have an antibody test before recieving the vaccine anyway? Jolly, glad that she is feeling better and thanks for letting us know. I don’t think sence plays any part of the CDC. They operate on science only or facts ! Pony where is that big cat laying on its back laughing ? Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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Post by farmrbrown on Dec 26, 2020 17:49:36 GMT
What I've read says this vaccine is more like flu vaccines. Unlike those for measles, mumps, chicken pox, it doesn't convey long-term immunity. It can help some to not catch the virus, and can reduce the severity in others who do catch it. So far, a few cases of allergic reactions, and a few days of symptoms like you mention, appear to be the far end of the bell curve of reactions to the vaccine. An argument in favor of those who've had the disease taking the vaccine is that until it has been around for a longer time, what immunity antibodies confer can't be known, though some educated-guesses based on other, similar diseases can be made. That's what I posted to Jolly last week. However NATURAL immunity can last a lifetime, like those who are still immune from the 1918 flu. And it is indeed new kind of vaccine. A word to the wise is sufficient.
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Post by tabitha on Dec 26, 2020 20:15:04 GMT
Perhaps some people who had severe cases of COVID have more immunity than what was previously thought. Does not look like that extra immunity did them any good.
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Post by sawmilljim on Dec 26, 2020 21:35:43 GMT
I'm glad your SIL survived, but I can't understand why ANYONE who had caught and survived a virus would EVER take a vaccine for that virus. Hopefully they will yank the medical licenses of the doctors who prescribe it for those cases. Just a wild guess but the reason most will take the vaccine is if they don’t they no longer have a job. See how that works.
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Post by farmrbrown on Dec 26, 2020 21:45:05 GMT
I'm glad your SIL survived, but I can't understand why ANYONE who had caught and survived a virus would EVER take a vaccine for that virus. Hopefully they will yank the medical licenses of the doctors who prescribe it for those cases. Just a wild guess but the reason most will take the vaccine is if they don’t they no longer have a job. See how that works. Could be. I'm so thankful to God that He has put both my wife and I in self employment. It wouldn't really make any difference in my case, I've told bosses before where they could stick their "mandatory" requirements I appreciate how He made it so easy for us several years in advance of this moment. Thank you Lord.
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Post by Jolly on Dec 27, 2020 13:21:20 GMT
BTW, her PCR antigen test came back yesterday. It was negative.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Dec 27, 2020 16:10:02 GMT
BTW, her PCR antigen test came back yesterday. It was negative.
In English, please?
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Post by Jolly on Dec 27, 2020 16:50:47 GMT
BTW, her PCR antigen test came back yesterday. It was negative.
In English, please?
A positive antigen test would have indicated an active infection. Or, in her case, a re-infection.
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Post by willowgirl on Dec 28, 2020 16:58:28 GMT
Jolly, thanks so much for sharing this! It certainly gives me pause. I still don't know if what I had last spring was Covid, but now I want an antibody test before I get the vaccine! However, I've heard the antibody test is only accurate if you've been sick within the past three months. Is this true? If so, I missed the window to get tested.
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Post by farmrbrown on Dec 28, 2020 18:19:20 GMT
Jolly, thanks so much for sharing this! It certainly gives me pause. I still don't know if what I had last spring was Covid, but now I want an antibody test before I get the vaccine! However, I've heard the antibody test is only accurate if you've been sick within the past three months. Is this true? If so, I missed the window to get tested. willowgirl, you catch on to this faster than most people and all the supposed "experts". Go back and see when Jolly 's SIL got Covid. Now count the months to the present. Of course her PCR test came back negative, I wouldn't have expected anything different. She doesn't have an active Covid infection now, nor should she ever again. Why? Because she has the antibodies for it (she survived) and probably will have for life just like any other naturally acquired immunity for almost every virus known to man. So, if this is pretty well known info for the last 100 years or so, WHY is the CDC and the medical community contradicting their own well established procedures? Ya gotta know when a scam is being run on you and then the only answer to get ......... is "why"?
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Post by UseLess on Dec 28, 2020 18:21:56 GMT
willowgirl, There was a little clip in the AM paper here suggesting immunity up to 6 months in some people. Waits to be seen how much further it will last in them.
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Post by daw on Dec 28, 2020 19:23:36 GMT
My friend in Pierce City said there is a women that has Covid for the second time....... I think it is yet to be proved . If the Covid tests are highly wrong.....
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