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Post by Jolly on Dec 28, 2020 23:41:45 GMT
Jolly, thanks so much for sharing this! It certainly gives me pause. I still don't know if what I had last spring was Covid, but now I want an antibody test before I get the vaccine! However, I've heard the antibody test is only accurate if you've been sick within the past three months. Is this true? If so, I missed the window to get tested. Varies between people. There is no red line to cross or not to cross. I had a conversation over a cup of coffee today with the lab manager and one of the staff physicians. The lab manager's wife is a nurse who works at the same hospital and she had COVID back about five months ago. Because of his job, he runs an antibody test on his wife every few weeks. So far, she still has detectable antibidies. End of the conversation was him saying she had decided against the vaccine as long as her antibody test was positive. The doc seemed to think "normality" was not even in sight until maybe fall of 2021. Unlike many, he considered herd immunity at 80% with antibodies from infection. Is he right? I dunno. It's medicine, and medicine is an art, not a science. We're learning as we go. We know a lot more than we knew last February, but not near what we need to know.
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Post by themotherhen on Dec 29, 2020 0:11:02 GMT
Did anyone else see the study that recommended Vitamin D supplementation to prevent infection? I saw something about it Christmas day.
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Post by Jolly on Dec 29, 2020 1:45:46 GMT
Standard therapy around here includes Vitamin D.
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Post by BrewDaddy on Dec 29, 2020 1:58:23 GMT
Standard therapy around here includes Vitamin D. The Vit D thing came up back in March, and I've been supplementing ever since... bd
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Dec 29, 2020 2:07:27 GMT
Standard therapy around here includes Vitamin D. It’s fine in general but I understand Vit D can increase the risk of kidney stones for those inclined to form them. And a lot of people don’t know they’re in that category until they have a crisis.
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Post by themotherhen on Dec 29, 2020 5:51:24 GMT
Standard therapy around here includes Vitamin D. It’s fine in general but I understand Vit D can increase the risk of kidney stones for those inclined to form them. And a lot of people don’t know they’re in that category until they have a crisis. Are you thinking of calcium? I get kidney stones when I take that.
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Dec 29, 2020 6:26:01 GMT
It’s fine in general but I understand Vit D can increase the risk of kidney stones for those inclined to form them. And a lot of people don’t know they’re in that category until they have a crisis. Are you thinking of calcium? I get kidney stones when I take that. No. There are conflicting reports regarding Vit D and kidney stones, but to be on the safe side, I would be careful not to exceed the recommended dosage. Again, the concern would be for people prone to develop stones.
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Post by themotherhen on Dec 29, 2020 8:15:09 GMT
Are you thinking of calcium? I get kidney stones when I take that. No. There are conflicting reports regarding Vit D and kidney stones, but to be on the safe side, I would be careful not to exceed the recommended dosage. Again, the concern would be for people prone to develop stones. I take Vitamin D because I have low levels of it. No trouble with stones, unless it's combined with calcium. Too bad you can't take the supplements, just try to get sun 🙂
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Post by BrewDaddy on Dec 29, 2020 8:16:39 GMT
Are you thinking of calcium? I get kidney stones when I take that. No. There are conflicting reports regarding Vit D and kidney stones, but to be on the safe side, I would be careful not to exceed the recommended dosage. Again, the concern would be for people prone to develop stones. I might have to look into this.... never had a kidney stone (thank you God!!) but my old man vitamin is 1000% i.e. 10 times RDA of Vit D.... bd
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Dec 29, 2020 8:29:14 GMT
No. There are conflicting reports regarding Vit D and kidney stones, but to be on the safe side, I would be careful not to exceed the recommended dosage. Again, the concern would be for people prone to develop stones. I might have to look into this.... never had a kidney stone (thank you God!!) but my old man vitamin is 1000% i.e. 10 times RDA of Vit D.... bd Like I said, there are conflicting reports on whether it does or doesn’t cause a problem. You’re probably ok, but pays to be cautious. I’d never had a kidney stone or kidney problem of any sort, then 2 yrs ago I ended up with an major emergency and a surgical procedure due to a kidney stone I never knew I had. Last Christmas I asked one of my sisters if there were any history of kidney stones or problems in the family. Nope, not a one. A week later she nearly died from complications from a kidney stone, her kidneys shut down, the whole works. She is 15 yrs older than I and had never had a problem or even an inkling anything was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 12:26:12 GMT
The RDA is notorious for being too low in most cases. One of the docs I work with regularly prescribes between 5000-9000 units of D, and often prescribes large doses and/or injections of B vitamins, esp for seniors.
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Post by UseLess on Dec 29, 2020 13:33:54 GMT
My doctor has had me take calcium with D for years. My levels don't seem to change much even if I only do so sporadically. The calcium is a large tab, so sometimes I just don't want to try swallowing it. Splitting it means TWO. Guess I should keep applesauce in the fridge.
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Post by willowgirl on Dec 29, 2020 14:28:09 GMT
Jolly, thanks so much for sharing this! It certainly gives me pause. I still don't know if what I had last spring was Covid, but now I want an antibody test before I get the vaccine! However, I've heard the antibody test is only accurate if you've been sick within the past three months. Is this true? If so, I missed the window to get tested. Varies between people. There is no red line to cross or not to cross. I had a conversation over a cup of coffee today with the lab manager and one of the staff physicians. The lab manager's wife is a nurse who works at the same hospital and she had COVID back about five months ago. Because of his job, he runs an antibody test on his wife every few weeks. So far, she still has detectable antibidies. End of the conversation was him saying she had decided against the vaccine as long as her antibody test was positive. The doc seemed to think "normality" was not even in sight until maybe fall of 2021. Unlike many, he considered herd immunity at 80% with antibodies from infection. Is he right? I dunno. It's medicine, and medicine is an art, not a science. We're learning as we go. We know a lot more than we knew last February, but not near what we need to know. Thanks Jolly. I imagine by the time the government gets around to vaccinating people like me, I'll be a year or more post-Covid (or what I suspect may have been Covid) so I'm probably best off just taking the shot.
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Post by daw on Dec 29, 2020 22:16:37 GMT
I got a call from the assisted home where my DS is , asking for permission to vaccinate her. Covid is sweeping the memory section and they are trying to keep it from spreading to the main section. Although I am her guardian I find it difficult to make decisions for her. I have no desire to take it but I am alone 90 % of the time whereas she is in a group of people
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Post by UseLess on Dec 30, 2020 0:39:38 GMT
daw, If you're asking, I think you probably should let them give her the vaccine. They aren't reporting that many side-effects in the elderly. It sounds horrible for someone with dementia to get a bad case of the virus. To only know every minute she feels horrible, but have no perspective? I feel bad for her and right now, worse for you.
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