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Post by ceresone on Jun 10, 2018 22:24:40 GMT
what d you think of the report from hollister--sightings of a brown bear---just a light black?
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Jun 11, 2018 2:24:32 GMT
I haven't heard about that, but we're awfully far south for brown bears.
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Post by paisley on Jun 11, 2018 2:34:10 GMT
Shamelessly plagiarized from the June Readers Digest: A park ranger in Montana was giving a talk to some hikers. "Brown bears are generally not dangerous, and will avoid humans if they can, so we suggest putting little bells on your packs. Now, grizzly bears are definitely dangerous, so if you see grizzly bear scat, turn around." One of the hikers asked "How do we tell the difference between brown bear scat and grizzly bear scat?" To which the ranger answered "The grizzly bearscat will have little bells in it." Despite the number of dead , maimed and missing people in charity hiking, and trail running events. The radio reminds people going out doors that its bears season so....don't forget to don your DINNER bear bells and limit use of bear spray to guides😵 Pack a a person qualified to use the gun they carry is what they should say!
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Post by tarbe on Sept 7, 2018 22:49:17 GMT
I had a few months of peace on my place with no Yogi, but now Bo-Bo has moved in and is taking after Yogi and is starting to tear stuff up.
I stopped in at the feed store last weekend and asked them if any of the regulars are complaining about bears.
The Office Manager said they have had quite a few people reporting bear activity/damage in the past months.
Didn't those bears get the memo? They are supposed to live in the Mark Twain!
It sounds so simple...just bear-proof your place! Yeah, right. Bear's gonna do what bear wants to do!
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Post by tarbe on May 11, 2020 2:41:08 GMT
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Post by tarbe on May 11, 2020 2:42:42 GMT
My neighbor routinely has calves busting through fence...trying not to become a bear snack.
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Post by tarbe on May 11, 2020 2:50:52 GMT
I haven't heard about that, but we're awfully far south for brown bears. One of the black bears marauding in my area is a cinnamon-phase black. My rancher neighbor has pics. I have not seen pics of the cinnamon colored bear.
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Post by paisley on May 11, 2020 5:25:44 GMT
Have you screen the blue phase?? link
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Post by Tim Horton on May 11, 2020 6:43:54 GMT
This conversation is 5 years old, but welcome to our life here in the far north every year..
I've seen a grubby brown phase, and a brilliant cinnamon, both only once.. Never seen blue, blond or white.. I suppose there could be the occasional true albino also..
Someone said, bears will be bears.. But they are capable of so much damage... And if, when embolden to get that close to buildings and people potentialy dangerous..
Someone mentioned a bear springing a trap.. Yes.. A trap savvy or werry bear is hard to deal with. It takes an extra ordinary trap to defeat a savvy bear. The trap is not hard to make undefeatable, but quite time consuming to detail. It can be done.. And it takes time for the bear to get careless..
The "feel good" crowd is an especially peeve of mine.. No idea of the science, or disregard the science to fit there agenda.. And rarely are they the ones who have to live with the consequences of there actions, or the predators actions..
And people wonder why livestock growers and such, who do have to live with the consequences of bear damage apply rule 30-06 of the 3-S management system..
Don't get me started... Don't even get me started..
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 15:00:12 GMT
Our bears here are pretty skittish so not much of a threat to humans unless you surprise them with no escape path. But dang, those things can tear stuff up! Like a 300+ pound raccoon.
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Post by Tim Horton on May 11, 2020 15:52:22 GMT
But dang, those things can tear stuff up! Like a 300+ pound raccoon.
++++++++ That is the thing far to many people do not realize.. A 200 lb bear is about 6 or more times stronger than a same size man.. That is why they can tear the door off a chicken house, open a storage container or truck trailer with feed, bite puncture a tractor tire, break the neck and drag away a full size beef cow, you name it..
Many willl not think or believe it, but I am a pretty much a live and let live kind of guy.. But once I'm poked I allow one minute to get mad, get over that, then take care of business..
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 16:39:50 GMT
The MO DNR has tracking programs for bears. A former co-worker owns a couple hundred acres in the Branson/Hollister area, and they are tracking many bear families on her land.
Sure doesn't give me the warm fuzzies...
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Post by tarbe on May 11, 2020 20:42:02 GMT
The MO DNR has tracking programs for bears. A former co-worker owns a couple hundred acres in the Branson/Hollister area, and they are tracking many bear families on her land. Sure doesn't give me the warm fuzzies... We have too many people and too many yummy domesticated critters in most of MO to be dealing with alpha predators. I love these folks who want to make a life project out of reintroducing and studying wolves (or bears for that matter). Meanwhile, folks have their livelihoods destroyed and their property becomes unsafe for their pets/children. Rule 45-70.
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Post by Tim Horton on May 12, 2020 17:12:48 GMT
Sure doesn't give me the warm fuzzies... +++++++ Welcome to our life in the north bush 365... If it aint one thing, it is another..
We have too many people and too many yummy domesticated critters in most of MO to be dealing with alpha predators.
I love these folks who want to make a life project out of reintroducing and studying wolves (or bears for that matter). ++++++ Do NOT even get me started on the wolf thing... I have seen that plan back fire with as much as 8 times the animal numbers in half the time projected and the carnage to wildlife and livestock that went with it.. There is a reason farmers, ranchers eleminated the wolf like they did by the early 1920s.. Now with the farm, ranch population shrinking, weekend, vacation land owner population increasing, what does that do for the predator population.. What does that do for the remaining wildlife, livestock population... WHAT could POSSIBLY GO WRONG ?? ?? Don't get me started..
Meanwhile, folks have their livelihoods destroyed and their property becomes unsafe for their pets/children. ++++ When the province voted to stop grizzly hunting. A majority of the population is in the Vancouver -spit- metro area, reported bear incidents increased 500 to 1000% before the den up the same year.. That is just reported incidents..
That same late summer our neighbor who makes hay delivered a load to another neigbor. He unloaded the hay, and was on the ground checking trailer lights and such before leaving.. Neighbor called him that night to say the trail cam recorded a grizzly sow and cubs whatch him do all this maybe 20 meters in the bush.
Don't get me started..
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Post by mtviolet on May 13, 2020 4:10:46 GMT
we have some grizzlies around here, but the real problem is the imported wolves. Big grey Canadian wolves are not native to Montana and they are causing a lot of problems. they have wiped out the caribou population in Northern Idaho/Northwestern Montana, the elk population is way down because wolves like to kill off the calves. deer populations are lower. Not a good thing. the imported Canadian wolves have even wiped out the native population of wolves that used to be here.
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