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Post by laurazone5 on Apr 29, 2016 14:15:02 GMT
A LOT if not most of the houses that I am looking at, have paneling.
Questions:
is paneling attached to the studs in place of drywall?
Or
Is paneling attached to drywall, that is attached to the studs?
IF it is simply attached to the studs, can I just unscrew it, pitch it, properly insulate (looking at 100 year old houses) and then hang drywall?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 15:19:26 GMT
Generally, paneling is attached to the drywall with the use of glue and finishing nails.
It's a bloody pain in the nether regions to remove. It peels the paper of the sheet rock, but hey! That could make for an interesting pattern...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 15:19:47 GMT
If it's a 100 year old house, are you sure it's drywall?
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Post by fordy on Apr 29, 2016 15:21:54 GMT
...........Removal depends upon the age of the paneling ! Older paneling will , probably be much thicker than modern paneling . Also , I'd think older paneling would have been attached with nails rather than screws . IF , the nails are "ringshank" types , then they will require greater effort to remove and will cause more damage to the wall studs when extraction is completed . Pulling Ringshank nails is like trying to pull a piece of meat out of a shark's mouth when the teeth are curved inward and grab deeply into the skin . ...........Thin wall paneling will or should be much easier to remove because it has less mass\thickness to hold onto the screw or nail . Screws or nails will have been covered up by some method to hide their presence so unscrewing each individual member make take more effort than is worthwhile , esp. when You're paying someone to do the removal . Besides it will destroy the paneling when removing the nails or screws and you're going to install NEW paneling so just get it off as fast as possible . , fordy |
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Post by paisley on Apr 29, 2016 15:25:05 GMT
1957....attached to studs... no sheet rock.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 29, 2016 22:57:39 GMT
Pony asks a good question. 100 years ago there wasn't any sheetrock used in residential construction, it was all lathe and plaster. Lathe and plaster is a great deal more difficult to remove than sheetrock. Serious demolition here. Look at the exposed walls and ceiling to determine which it is.
ETA: Lathe & Plaster is composed of slats (lathe) nailed horizontally on the studs, then metal lathe screen nailed to them, then a "scratch coat" of plaster, then 2 finish coats.
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Post by fixitguy on Apr 30, 2016 1:46:30 GMT
1957....attached to studs... no sheet rock. My house was built in 57'. It has a form of sheet rock ( the name escapes me) It is about 1 foot wide and hung horizontally, the plaster was applied over it. |
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 30, 2016 4:23:01 GMT
My house was built in 1908, remodeled and added onto 3 times. It's got every material made in the past 100 years in different areas. The only reason the ugly plaster ceiling in the kitchen hasn't been torn out and replaced in the 15 years we've been here is because I know what misery it would be.
I'm not trying to talk Laura out of anything, but she should know ahead of time what she's facing in remodeling an older home. They're FULL of surprises.
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Post by farmrbrown on Apr 30, 2016 4:34:25 GMT
A LOT if not most of the houses that I am looking at, have paneling. Questions: is paneling attached to the studs in place of drywall? Or Is paneling attached to drywall, that is attached to the studs? IF it is simply attached to the studs, can I just unscrew it, pitch it, properly insulate (looking at 100 year old houses) and then hang drywall? USUALLY it's nailed to the studs with small, ringed finishing nails, with insulation between the studs. But when it was popular many years ago, it might have been applied over just about anything.........right about the time the construction adhesive Liquid Nail came along, lol. In that case, block wall, drywall or anything else was just a few squeeze tubes away from a paneled den or living room. Easy way to check? Knock on the wall in between the studs and listen for a hollow sound. If it sounds pretty solid behind it, it was likely glued on and you'll need to pick a demolition day when someone really teed you off and you're mad as hell, lol. You could also take a small screwdriver with you and take off an electrical outlet cover plate and see if you can peek at what is underneath. Carpenters have to be close, but not perfect, so the cut out might reveal the material behind it. |
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Post by wolfmom on May 5, 2016 19:45:54 GMT
Why remove? Why not just have someone dry wall over it? If it's old, that can act as insulation also, can't it?
In my current older house, someone spackled (?) in all the vertical lines in the paneling, sanded it, then papered over with some sort of heavy wallpaper backing made for smoothing out rough walls before painting. Looks pretty good. In certain lights you can see a few faint lines, but with the pictures and other hanging things, they don't show.
Laura, are you looking for a project house? I understand everything you've posted has been one with character, but remember, everything costs more than you think it will and take three times as long to do while you work. And for me, the most frustrating thing is not having enough money to do everything "right now" so I can move on to other things.
If you find a house you like but needs an "upgrade", talk to your lender. Get 3 bids, submit them and see if you can get it added into your mortgage. If the ratio is there with the appraisal to include the upgrade, your lender may say OK.
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Post by gapeach on May 5, 2016 20:53:18 GMT
My son bought his grandmother's house. It was all knotty pine paneling. He primed it and painted it all an antique white. It is really pretty now. He used something on the paneling that covered the knots. You would never know that they were there.
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