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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 21, 2015 15:16:12 GMT
An article that makes a lot of sense, as opposed to what the US administration says and does. It almost goes as far as my personal view of what should be done. If we want to destroy ISIS, we can destroy ISIS. Perhaps I am stating the obvious, but I want to state it anyway. Why? Because I am not hearing it If enough. I’m certainly not hearing it from the White House, where the original goal of destruction is barely mentioned. President Obama is listless. He’s also petulant, pointing political fingers at Republicans. But he doesn’t have a trace of a coherent policy to destroy ISIS. Not a trace. This is from General Jack Keane, in his recent congressional testimony: “Having the best security defensive system in America is not sufficient; we must have as good an offense to stop and defeat ISIS. We do not. We are not even close.”
Read more at: www.nationalreview.com/article/427449/defeat-ISIS
I'd like to tell the Arab world something similar to what GW Bush said after 911, "If you're not with us, you're against us". Either get your house in order, or we'll do it for you.
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Post by fordy on Nov 21, 2015 15:31:19 GMT
...........I disagree with him on one point........donot give the Iraqi's any military equipment ! They , are a bunch of cowards who simply ran back to Baghdad and allowed ISIS to take control of a Billion dollars in American equipment . WE , are still nuking our own 'Stuff' so why would we provide any equipment other than bullets and free bacon . Screw Them and the camels they rode in on ! , fordy
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Post by whereiwant2b on Nov 21, 2015 16:17:16 GMT
I don't know if any such innate group such as ISIS can really be ended. It could be smashed and will just reform into a new group and start growing again. What we shouldn't do is pretend by allowing immigration of people who hate us while being ineffective as ending the hate. And that seems to be the current government pisition- pretending.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Nov 21, 2015 19:33:58 GMT
A big part of their doctrine is end times apocalyptic prophecy, where they provoke the nations of Rome (the infidel west) to attack them until they've only a few left, then mohammad and Jesus will return to save the caliphate, and destroy the armies of the west. Then the whole world would be subject to allah. It would sort of mess up their theories if we beat them down like they want, but nobody shows up to save them. Of course some would still hang on to the belief, but it'll be a lot harder to find followers when their main tenet is shown false.
Most find it hard to understand why ISIS would commit terrorist acts in foreign countries with sizable a military, until they understand these provocations are part of bringing about their prophecy. Similar in my mind to Iran's willingness to nuke Israel, in the belief it will bring about the return of the 12th imam.
For muslims, nationality and borders are a European construct. The Iranians don't see themselves as a nation, but part of the muslim world without fixed borders. If Israel were to nuke Iran into a glowing parking lot, in the muslim mind they'd just be destroying a small part of the muslim world, and worth the sacrifice if it brings the 12th imam back to the rest of the muslims. Although the 12th imam is a shia belief, when he comes back, he'll prove to the Sunnis they were wrong, and all muslims will unite.
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Post by paisley on Nov 22, 2015 3:50:14 GMT
Russia seems to be leading the charge. And I am glad. As stated the goal is world domination in conforming a caliphate. With that mind set tolerance for anyone is impossible.
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Post by sawmilljim on Nov 22, 2015 7:03:31 GMT
Yea and something tells me Putin an't in to spending Russia's money on rebuilding either.
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riverdale
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Post by riverdale on Nov 22, 2015 14:52:13 GMT
Not if we are not allowed to.
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