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Post by blackfeather on Jun 12, 2018 2:11:51 GMT
So they are making a H5N1 wide spectrum vaccine, and mysteriously they also have sent out a H5N1 contaminated H3N2 virus used for testing that could recombine with each other in a human host and possibly make a pandemic or at the very least a H5N1 variant flu. It appears to have been sent out by mistake. My question is what are they doing with it in the first place, and will this new H5N1 vaccine they are working on protect against it? Curious.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Jun 12, 2018 11:42:40 GMT
It does make a suspicious person wonder if Baxter has already developed a vaccine to combat what they released. Big bucks in curing a disease (even if they caused it.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 13:41:30 GMT
Having close relatives who have worked in compliance and legal at two major pharmaceutical companies (one of those companies being Baxter), I am fairly confident that Baxter should have controls in place.
That said, having controls on paper, and having controls in actuality, are two different animals.
For example, one of the companies with which I am familiar often has quality issues. Rather than recall or destroy the inferior products, they will "burn through" it, or send it to Third World countries, write it off against tax, and look like great humanitarians.
Could it be malicious release of virus? Sure, it could. Is it possible that it was a major failure of the supposed safeguards? Oh, yeah, it could.
Six of one, half dozen of the other... Either way, someone's @$$ will be in a sling, and it probably won't be the person responsible for this debacle.
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Post by joebill on Jun 13, 2018 3:17:52 GMT
You can be a criminal full of animosity and a desire to kill people or an idiot who made a mistake, but the odds are the idiot will pay the price and the criminal will walk free. Criminals are pretty good at not being the fall guy, and idiots seem to yearn to be the sacrificial lamb.
The further the average man is from either of them, the better off he is. I seem to have a good plan for dealing with every sort of adversity except people. They stump me more often than not. Life could be a dream without them....Joe
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Post by beowoulf90 on Jun 13, 2018 11:26:15 GMT
Trust? a pharmaceutical company? of any size?
Not happening.
They all may have started out with mankind in mind, but now it's how to make more for less.
They no longer want to cure anything, but only want to make the symptoms "comfortable".
Their only goal anymore is to have everyone on a daily regiment of pills. Now that they have people believing that they can't live without this pill or that pill, they have control.
Cynical? Yes, but not without reasons or facts to back it up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 13:09:56 GMT
Trust? a pharmaceutical company? of any size? Not happening. They all may have started out with mankind in mind, but now it's how to make more for less. They no longer want to cure anything, but only want to make the symptoms "comfortable". Their only goal anymore is to have everyone on a daily regiment of pills. Now that they have people believing that they can't live without this pill or that pill, they have control. Cynical? Yes, but not without reasons or facts to back it up. Indeed. It's not about maintaining/restoring health.
It's all about "medical condition management." And if you don't have a medical condition, they will make one for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 23:42:29 GMT
Pharmaceuticals run this country. Think about it. How many “new” diseases or conditions are there today than there was 20yrs ago? There’s a pill for that!
Here eat this highly processed, high fat, high sugar, high salt food. Oh, you have a heart condition, obesity or diabetes? We’ve got you covered!
No money in Curing anything. The money is in “treatments”, vaccines and convincing the masses to just take this pill!
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Jun 14, 2018 0:26:26 GMT
Pharmaceuticals run this country. Think about it. How many “new” diseases or conditions are there today than there was 20yrs ago? There’s a pill for that! Here eat this highly processed, high fat, high sugar, high salt food. Oh, you have a heart condition, obesity or diabetes? We’ve got you covered! No money in Curing anything. The money is in “treatments”, vaccines and convincing the masses to just take this pill!
I wish I could "like" that more than once.
I wonder how many times the CEOs of pharmaceuticals have said to chemists "Cure cancer? What are you, stupid?"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 23:11:29 GMT
Ok kind of in line. When President Clinton was in office Tysons was building the Worlds Largest Poultry Processing Plant in the world.
Then at the same time had Avian Flu Virus was discovered in China. Tyson says no problem we will supply the poultry.
Ok right off I couldn't help but wonder how hard it would be for the United States Government to introduce this virus to gain control of a very large market in China? In other words control.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Jun 15, 2018 0:11:35 GMT
Ok kind of in line. When President Clinton was in office Tysons was building the Worlds Largest Poultry Processing Plant in the world. Then at the same time had Avian Flu Virus was discovered in China. Tyson says no problem we will supply the poultry. Ok right off I couldn't help but wonder how hard it would be for the United States Government to introduce this virus to gain control of a very large market in China? In other words control. rebelman
Nah, you're as misguided as Sawmilljim thinking we can't trust the FBI to do an unbiased investigation.
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Post by beowoulf90 on Jun 15, 2018 11:23:07 GMT
The FBI = Keystone Kops of the time.
Not to be trusted to solve a crime, but funny to watch as they chase their tails and make up excuses and lies..
Unfortunately it impacts us all because of their connection to Government..
Personally I think they should be disbanded, because they obviously don't believe in upholding the law.. Maybe they should be listed as a PAC for Communists..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2018 18:16:59 GMT
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