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Post by ceresone on Mar 12, 2019 17:55:44 GMT
Arkansas and 7 other states thinking of trying a new system to clean up...offering a nickel refund on bottles...hope someone else heard this too...
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Post by BrewDaddy on Mar 12, 2019 18:02:20 GMT
We've been doing this for close to 50 years in Oregon. A couple years ago they raised it up to 10 cents per. It includes what used to be considered disposable water bottles...
The EBT crowd likes to go in and buy a few cases of bottled water, go out into the parking lot and dump them, turn around and take the empties back in for the cash refund... And there's nothing anyone can do about it...
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Mar 12, 2019 19:25:26 GMT
And just who is coming up with the money to pay these bounties? If they slap a tax on bottles, we pay. If they find a way to slip a tax in, we pay.
I read recently that China, the biggest buyer of recyclables, has quit buying. Now many cities are putting their carefully sorted trash in the landfills.
Wouldn't it be great if governments stopped trying to "help"?
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Post by obsrvr on Mar 12, 2019 21:29:37 GMT
When I was a VERY poor kid, that's how my brother and I would get money for ammo to go kill meat to eat.
Sometimes we found enough to add to the flour and bean supply. They were 3cents per bottle then.
Seen on the news last night that there's a proposal in the Arkansas legislature right now to limit what foods can be bought with the EBT card. Hope it passes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 22:46:15 GMT
Got .02 for Glass Pop Bottles for years. Was a lot better tasting.
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Post by obsrvr on Mar 12, 2019 23:49:22 GMT
Got .02 for Glass Pop Bottles for years. Was a lot better tasting. rebelman They used sugar and not high fructose corn syrup back then, also had more phosphoric acid back then. I remember when a coke would rip everything out of your mouth and throat when you took a swallow. Aahhhh!! Refreshing!!! |
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Post by john on Mar 14, 2019 0:46:37 GMT
Every state that does it already, they add a deposit charge to every bottle you buy. It's only a tax if you don't return the bottle. The bounty is just a refund of your deposit.
Works pretty well, except certain bottles are exempt...I see people collecting bottles for the refund pick up an exempt one and read the label, then throw it back on the ground when they see it's worthless. That's just as bad as the original litterer as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by john on Mar 14, 2019 0:48:48 GMT
The EBT crowd likes to go in and buy a few cases of bottled water, go out into the parking lot and dump them, turn around and take the empties back in for the cash refund... And there's nothing anyone can do about it... Oh, but there IS something very simple they could do about it...just make the deposit not payable by EBT...let them buy the water with EBT but require cash for the deposit portion. Of course they won't do that because it would make too much sense. |
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Post by joebill on Mar 14, 2019 2:29:15 GMT
It was so common when I was a kid that everybody knew when you bought a bottle of soda at the gas station you were supposed to go inside and pay 2 cents if you were taking the bottle with you. If you ran a gas station, you had to store empty soda bottles inside to keep the kids from stealing them and turning them in across town for money. Had to store scrap car batteries inside, too. Worth up to a WHOLE DOLLAR back then.
Certain back roads around here are so lined with long-neck bottles year round that some poor fool is likely to file a mining claim on them. Rule is mining claims have to be for "valuable mineral", glass is made mostly of silica, silica is a mineral, and a half ton pickup bed full of beer bottles is likely more valuable than an equal volume of low-grade copper ore.
Also, the bottles represent a "Placer claim" as opposed to a "lode claim"....Placer means the mineral is on the surface, lode means you have to dig for it. If you can mine the deposit with a scoop shovel, it is placer, and no question your claim will be denied. It is a natural for approval.
It is a wonder to me that intelligent men and women embrace so many truly STUPID things, simply because the government says we can. I kinda think all conservatives should line up for an ass kicking every six months, just to keep us aware of who the enemy is.....Joe
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Post by fordy on Mar 14, 2019 2:54:28 GMT
............I liked to help motels collect empty soda bottles , so we'd drive through the parking lots at night and pick up all the empty bottles the folks in their rooms had set outside their door when empty ! I think the deposit was 10 cents a piece . We discovered recycling long before it became popular ! ............Also , back when pay telephones were everywhere , a friend from HS was drunk and stuck an M80 in the coin return thingy to see what would happen !lol It completely unlocked the coin box on the bottom of the phone....... , fordy |
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Post by joebill on Mar 15, 2019 2:31:27 GMT
There used to be an ancient injun around here about 20 years ago who had worked for the Army during WW1, cleaning up around the local POW camp, just a general laborer who did as he was told, part of which was to take all of the trash out and bury it in the desert.
When I knew him he had seasoned into the perfect picture of the "noble red man" and used to charge tourists $5 to take his picture at shows, and did a fair amount of business. His best business, though, was digging up all of that 80 odd year old trash from the abandoned Army post and selling selected items.
He had, as a kid, separated the coka cola bottles and buried them by themselves, still knew all of the exact places to dig, and was never without a half a truck bed full of the antiques that were dated way back there, all wrapped in rags and kept nice.
He told me he was never telling anybody where the stashes were, even if he knew he was not long for this world. "People need things to think about and look for". Wisdom of the ages from a savage. I think that is what our young need now, but they do not have a clue they need anything but more couch time.....Joe
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Post by roadking on Mar 17, 2019 15:10:28 GMT
While there is no deposit around here, our Scouts help run the township recycling program...aluminum cans are pulled aside, crushed and (used to be me taking them in) taken to local scrap yard. Being the scouts, the yard always paid a higher price. Sometimes it was over $200.
We still save the cans we use, and when it is substantial enough and I'm heading that way, I turn them in...they remember me from my days as a scout leader, and still give me a premium...LOL!
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Post by willowgirl on Apr 15, 2019 12:25:47 GMT
I soooo wish we had a bottle deposit law here in PA! There is so much more trash on the roadsides than there was in my home state, which had one.
Guess I should write my legislators, huh?
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Post by blackfeather on Apr 15, 2019 16:21:20 GMT
At 5 cents, many people around here don't bother, they just toss them out. Some go around and collect them for the money, but many just end up in the trash. Apparently 5 cents isn't enough of an incentive for some people.
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Post by gob on Apr 15, 2019 16:58:30 GMT
Inmates pick up the trash around here. Win, win.
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