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Post by Thtwudbeme on Sept 11, 2019 18:35:07 GMT
Hehehehehehehehehehehehe....
And the gullible just soak in the BS.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 18:35:10 GMT
WTC7 is the subject of this thread.
Do y'all really think it just fell all by itself like that? Do you not even wonder about it?
Do you believe the government didn't turn a blind eye to those old boys who took those flying lessons?
And do you remember W walking around his ranch HOLDING HANDS with the Saudi king??
PS stay off the thread if ALL you are gonna do is ridicule the members here.
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Post by DEKE on Sept 11, 2019 19:29:40 GMT
PS stay off the thread if ALL you are gonna do is ridicule the members here.
You are right.
If this was a pro-Xian thread and one of our members was doing nothing but ridicule the believers, we would be offended and think he was rude. I've made it clear where I stand, said I'll not argue this topic further, and I won't.
Our CC good neighbor policy is that we all get to say our peace. I got my chance. After that, sometimes we have to agree to disagree.
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Post by blackfeather on Sept 11, 2019 20:15:46 GMT
Let's see, the CIA replaced all the janitorial staff at the towers with hundreds of agents who were willing to murder nearly 3000 of their fellow American. Then they went about strapping explosives to columns they'd weakened, replaced the sheetrock, taped & bedded, and painted them without any employees noticing the next days. Not even the smell of fresh paint, they must have sprayed Fabreeze. Then they mass hypnotized thousands of people in the area, making them think they saw two airplanes, when they were really missiles. The missile crews had to be in on it too of course. How they slipped video footage of the second plane crashing into the tower to every major news network within a couple hours I'll never know. The news people were obviously in on it too. What amazes me, is out of the thousands of people who were involved, not one has gotten drunk and bragged to a soon-to-be-ex wife, made a death bed confession, or joined the priesthood confessing his complicity. Maybe they were hypnotized to forget? Hypnotism doesn't work on some people, they must have been pre-qualified. As has been said, the same government that can't do anything right certainly got lucky this time. About 2 years before a contracting company went through the building "updating" fire alarms, and such. A company said to be owned by the Bush family no less. They had access to the entire building. The report on building 7 said all the main supporting beams failed at the same time. Besides a normal fire won't melt steel, plane fuel doesn't get hot enough to melt steel, and if it did, they all wouldn't fail at once. This includes the two towers, if it was fire, some beams near the fire would fail before other beams causing it to collapse unevenly. The lower floors were built to hold the higher floors so the entire building would't collapse even if a few of the upper floor gave way. These buildings were totally consistent with controlled demolition. Experts have said so. This idea upsets people's view of their world, it isn't comfortable for them to accept this idea so they find reasons to reject it. Steve R. Pieczenik deputy secretary of state in the Bush administration has said that the Bush white house knew in advance Airplanes were to fly into the buildings and didn't try to stop it, even threatened a General in military intelligence if he went public with what he knew, he'd be kicked out of the military and lose his pension. They threatened Pieczenik with jail time and he dared them to go to trial and he'd bring out all the information, then they left him alone. There are people out there telling a different story but the main stream news media won't cover them.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Sept 11, 2019 20:34:46 GMT
blackfeather, So let me get this straight. In order to "update" the fire alarms the had to tear the sheetrock off the columns? "Said" to be owned by the Bush family? No links? Pull an automobile up to steel post, just touching it. Press on the gas pedal, and hear the back tires spin. Now, back up about 20 feet, floor the gas pedal, and watch what happens to the steel post. That's how things collapse, sudden impact. Structural steel is rated for static loads, not impact. A series of columns might be rated to statically hold 200 tons, but drop that 200 tons on that same structure and watch what happens.
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Post by blackfeather on Sept 11, 2019 22:04:13 GMT
Ozarks Tom, lets say your right that the impact of the aluminium plane weakened or severed the steel beams. The Plane didn't completely penetrate the building, so on the far side the steel beams would have been more intact than on the crash side. Hence, the weaker beams would have broken first, causing the top to lean to one side while the stronger beams would have taken longer to break. This is not what we see, we see a building dropping in it's own foot print, not the top leaning to one side then snapping off. Secondly since the lower floors were unaffected there was nor reason for their collapse, even if the upper part of the building dropped a few floors it shouldn't have take down the whole building, (those beams were still intact) but just damaged a few floors beneath before toppling to one side. Finally these buildings and other sky scrapers like them are engineered to take an accidental hit by a plane. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1340225/Twin-towers-built-to-withstand-plane-crash.html This is what happens when a plane hits a building... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_Empire_State_Building_B-25_crash
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Post by sawmilljim on Sept 12, 2019 2:06:10 GMT
Yea I looked up videos of implosions gone wrong if those guys set one wrong charge things go sideways or it is a uncroled mess . As to who would kill 3,000 people without even blinking just look at the people that shoot school children even near me some kook killed his mother in a gruesome way .There is lots of pure evil in this world and most want to cure it with a human solution or the way they were taught to think. As to someone getting drunk and spilling the beans just who would believe him or her at most very few. Even if Trump held a press conference and fifty people confessed what would it accomplish ? To quote some untouchable person at this point what difference does it make . Even if Ol George set up the whole deal he is dead and the american people just flat out ain't going to do one thing about it one way or the other .
On another note in less than fifty years guns will be confiscated next dem president will get the ball started . Don't think so go to youtube and watch a few first amendment audits . Most PD are militarized and those guys gals many have a God complex.
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Post by joebill on Sept 12, 2019 2:49:57 GMT
Yeah, well, not to put to fine a point on it , BUT, combine nearly unlimited heat with steel beams and watch what happens. I can twirl a railroad spike into a spiral with one hand with enough heat, and add a bit more, it will melt into a puddle at the bottom of the forge chamber.
Now, I realize that y'all know exactly what the temperature of the beams were after the planes hit, even though no other living soul does, but the largest and most logical part of me is convinced that the jet fuel from the planes was more than enough to negate the strength of the beams and make the whole assembly have the structural integrity of a wet noodle.
It is perfectly permissible to doubt my word, and I encourage anybody who is interested to re-create the event using jet fuel and a LOT of air-blast similar to that achieved from a structure the same height as the WTC sucking in air from the low stories and applying it to the top stories which were soaked in Jet-A.
Sorry, guys. Nothing was needed but the jet fuel and the blast of air. I could melt any steel billet with what was provided from just those two elements.
You can argue that other elements were added, but I strongly maintain they were not needed. I am sorry to say, it was a near perfect plan with near perfect results. God willing, it will not happen again....Joe
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Post by sawmilljim on Sept 12, 2019 3:22:02 GMT
Joebill where did building 7 get its jet fuel from ? Also didn't those steel beams have a thick layer of concrete on them . Near perfect ain't even close it was free fall 6.6 seconds in it's footprint no one sided going on there.
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Post by themotherhen on Sept 12, 2019 7:25:21 GMT
Obviously ideas about 9/11 are going to separate people. Some of us saw a group of radical muslims, some of us saw a group of radical muslims that had insinuated themselves with our own governments' help in order to take away Americans' freedoms. This is the great divide. Remember the quote? "Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither." 9/11 shifted that window.
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Post by Jolly on Sept 12, 2019 10:31:08 GMT
Never worked for the Feds, but did work for the state 34 years. The government is not as smart or as efficient as most people think. The number of people required to pull this conspiracy off is mind-boggling and that many people simply cannot keep a secret.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 11:47:40 GMT
Never worked for the Feds, but did work for the state 34 years. The government is not as smart or as efficient as most people think. The number of people required to pull this conspiracy off is mind-boggling and that many people simply cannot keep a secret. I pray you are correct, Jolly , but I also know that the force guiding the evil in those who sold out their souls is able to control its minions. It does seem that those who might say something wind up silenced...
<shrug>
No matter how it was done, it helps to remember that our Creator God is sovereign, that we can trust Him, and that we do well -- nay, best -- to follow the One He sent to redeem us.
The rest is just details.
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Post by TxGal on Sept 12, 2019 12:20:53 GMT
In my mind a small plane crashing into a house is a scale model of a jet crashing into a skyscraper. Yet the house doesn't go up in flames, implode, or collaspe. Is it a different fuel used in smaller planes? (Not being facetious, honestly don't know.)
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Post by sawmilljim on Sept 12, 2019 16:10:16 GMT
In my mind a small plane crashing into a house is a scale model of a jet crashing into a skyscraper. Yet the house doesn't go up in flames, implode, or collaspe. Is it a different fuel used in smaller planes? (Not being facetious, honestly don't know.) Yea small plane fuel is higher octane and has no alcohol Thing is building 7 was not hit and another thing to fall in its footprint you would think it would take even heat on all beams that were also buried in concrete . If memory serves #7 was over 300 foot from the other buildings . One of the most interesting tenants was then-Mayor Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management, and its emergency command center on the 23rd floor. This floor received 15 million dollars worth of renovations, including independent and secure air and water supplies, and bullet and bomb resistant windows designed to withstand 200 MPH winds. How curious that on the day of the attack, Guiliani and his entourage set up shop in a different headquarters, abandoning the special bunker designed precisely for such an event. 3
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Post by blackfeather on Sept 12, 2019 17:36:58 GMT
TxGal, Jet fuel looks to be more kerosene/ diesel type.
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