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Post by blackfeather on Apr 9, 2020 19:31:58 GMT
www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/south-korean-scientists-warn-covid-19-can-spontaneously-reactivate-cured-patientsSo after getting over this virus some aren't immune, then what makes anyone think that getting a vaccine will make anyone immune? A vaccine gives a person a disabled version of the virus so you can develop anti-bodies, but if the disease it self doesn't make anti-bodies (or enough of them) why would the vaccine which is just a disabled version of the same? It might help some but it may do very little for others. It isn't a cure all. It may not accomplish its goal of making everyone immune, and may give false sense of security that may spread the disease among those who can not make anti-bodies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 19:41:12 GMT
Lots of people have developed antibodies, probably a lot more than haven't. "Some" and "several" are key words in that snippet.
No vaccine is 100% effective, nor is any vaccine considered a cure-all by reasonable people.
Even making only 20% of people immune would have a huge impact.
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Post by joebill on Apr 12, 2020 22:09:13 GMT
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. The big trouble with that ancient philosophy is that everybody always claims to represent the "many", and have the arguments to back it up, even if the "many" don't even believe it. Of course, medically, nobody knows if they are amongst the "few" or the "many" until they see what the medicine does to them.....Joe
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Post by DEKE on Apr 12, 2020 22:20:40 GMT
The big trouble with that ancient philosophy is that everybody always claims to represent the "many", and have the arguments to back it up, even if the "many" don't even believe it.
Yeah, it made a good sci fi movie line, but in reality, what it comes down to is the big gov't tribe is saying, "we know what you need better than you know what you need, so you'll get what we decide you should get."
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Apr 12, 2020 23:02:04 GMT
AIDS has been around since the early 80's, it's a virus and still no vaccine...
I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by joebill on Apr 13, 2020 2:14:25 GMT
Take heart! They'll whip it's butt, just like they did the common cold ….Joe
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Post by fordy on Apr 13, 2020 2:51:59 GMT
...................WHY , would the patent office patent a virus without a Vaccine to protect the public from that virus ? Every patented virus should have a vaccine ! ...................How many patented viruses does the US military possess without vaccines to protect the public should they be stolen or otherwise used to infect innocent victims ? , fordy
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Apr 13, 2020 13:09:02 GMT
fordy, Way too many things are done just because they can be done. Some scientific endeavors remind me of a two year old playing with matches for the first time, the kid has no idea what the result might be. With scientists, sometimes they accidentally create plastic or penicillin, other times world ending viruses. It's human nature to be curious, just that sometimes getting too curious becomes cat like.
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Post by daw on Apr 13, 2020 13:31:10 GMT
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Post by blackfeather on Apr 13, 2020 16:15:03 GMT
Yes hand in glove with W.H.O., just take a peek at the political cartoons section page 100, I also included the link on all the "successes" Gates has had. I wouldn't get a vaccine from him even if his life depended on it.
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Post by blackfeather on Apr 13, 2020 16:33:15 GMT
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. In each and every medical procedure, including vaccinations, there is a chance of suffering harm. The question becomes what percentage of adverse outcomes we are willing to tolerate? That kind of dovetails with our current conundrum of when to reopen the economy. How much bad can we tolerate for how much good? So are you advocating forced vaccinations? If one refuses to get a vaccination, you'd still insist on it since the needs of the many are at risk here? There is a biblical principle here, one must work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. So saving ones own life (non-spiritually speaking) by extension, should be each individuals responsibility not someone else's. If one believes it is better not to get the vaccine then that is their decision. Another point the vaccine community seems happy to consign some to suffering or even death for the perceived good of others. That almost seem like they're playing god, and we are nothing more than cattle to be managed.
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Post by Jolly on Apr 13, 2020 17:52:42 GMT
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. In each and every medical procedure, including vaccinations, there is a chance of suffering harm. The question becomes what percentage of adverse outcomes we are willing to tolerate? That kind of dovetails with our current conundrum of when to reopen the economy. How much bad can we tolerate for how much good? So are you advocating forced vaccinations? If one refuses to get a vaccination, you'd still insist on it since the needs of the many are at risk here? There is a biblical principle here, one must work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. So saving ones own life (non-spiritually speaking) by extension, should be each individuals responsibility not someone else's. If one believes it is better not to get the vaccine then that is their decision. Another point the vaccine community seems happy to consign some to suffering or even death for the perceived good of others. That almost seem like they're playing god, and we are nothing more than cattle to be managed. One virus word for you. Polio.
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Post by woody on Apr 13, 2020 19:06:02 GMT
Oh boy, do I remember those shots. Us kids lining up to get the vaccine at school scared the daylights out of me...but hey look, they worked...
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Post by fordy on Apr 13, 2020 19:17:57 GMT
fordy , Way too many things are done just because they can be done. Some scientific endeavors remind me of a two year old playing with matches for the first time, the kid has no idea what the result might be. With scientists, sometimes they accidentally create plastic or penicillin, other times world ending viruses. It's human nature to be curious, just that sometimes getting too curious becomes cat like. ................This virus and all viruses akin to this are meant to kill people in very large numbers , and so we have members of the world population being slaughtered , albeit randomly thanks to the airlines , which amounts too an act of WAR ! This virus is no different than someone firing a machine gun with an unlimited supply of invisible bullets at people who have no indication that they have been targeted for death . What other conclusion can a non scientist come too? , fordy
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Post by paisley on Apr 13, 2020 19:26:20 GMT
I would not get it. I would rather wear a mask til I understood it was safe....TOO MY STANDARDS!
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