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Post by Ozarks Tom on Feb 6, 2019 1:51:32 GMT
Okay, I've been thinking about this for quite a while, and still haven't come to a conclusion. I put this in Area 52 because this is bound to involve some conspiracy theories, probably several I haven't thought of.
My question is this: Who is really behind banning guns?
As far as I can tell, the liberal politicians and their followers are nothing but fellow travelers to some larger plan. Yeah, they're serious and believe what they're saying, but who/what is the impetus behind wanting to disarm the populace?
As with most liberal causes, the "common sense gun control" cause is mainly the hive mentality repeating the same talking points. But, when faced with facts and logic their minds aren't changed in the least. There's got to be a controlling force behind the illogical demand that we, as citizens, can't defend ourselves against bad people and bad government.
Did this happen just out of the blue, where all of a sudden liberals heard a talking point and decided since conservatives were against it, it must be good? Or, was the talking point put out there as bait for the liberals to bite on knowing the reactions on both sides?
Personally, my suspicions go toward the "deep state", who know our economy is a house of cards and inevitably must tumble. When that happens they'd much rather be the only ones to have the guns at the disposal of the military and police to keep them from paying the price for their malfeasance. Bloomberg and his organizations are just popcorn farts in the big scheme of things. Soros and his organizations are infiltrating the media and dem politics, but more interested in socialism than guns.
Or, is whoever behind the movement hoping to foment a civil war by legislating confiscation?
I don't know, any thoughts?
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Post by Thtwudbeme on Feb 6, 2019 2:07:58 GMT
Russian collusion...
George Soros...
Aliens... (The outer space kind primarily, but possibly the illegal kind also)
All three because are working together because they want unfettered access to all of the resources that this country offers.
They are all in cahoots!
A weaker America will be prime for plucking!
You did ask for conspiracy theories, right?
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Post by paisley on Feb 6, 2019 2:31:43 GMT
Bloomberg puts money for anti gun indoctrination. Schools and social media and dems are all in line for dumbing die the people while dividing the people... You might not be off!
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Post by themotherhen on Feb 6, 2019 3:53:41 GMT
Personally I would have posted this in current events, not conspiracy theories but either way...
There are people out there that have no respect and less regard for the rule of law in our country, and in other countries also. When there are people elected to Congress that openly espouse socialism, open borders and gun control do you think those policies will be implemented with no pushback from people that have worked hard as the ants do to prepare? Obviously not. That is what is behind the push for gun control and it goes much higher than Ms Occasional Cortex and a couple of muslimas. Bush Sr spoke of the new world order and it is a real thing, they have clearly defined goals that are easy to research. Just like this latest Davos meeting, a bunch of extremely wealthy people that take private planes (that have a much larger carbon footprint than any of us will use in our lifetime) to talk about how the peons need to eat bugs and sprouts and stop using fossil fuels while they continue their lifestyle. This isn't wealth envy, this is realism. Does anyone think that the former CEO of Starbucks, Shultz, who wants billionaires to be called "people of means" will be eating bugs and sprouts and riding his bike to work? No, of course not. This is about control and subjection of the common man. Even if the United States got rid of fossil fuels (severely impacting our nutritional standards and economy) China and India will produce more than enough evil "fossil fuel pollution" to outpace our contribution.
Have any of you read Agenda 21? It is a book by Glenn Beck. I know, Beck is a crackpot but this dystopian story that he wrote has some scary elements of truth in it. It's like any other dystopian story, some elements of truth.
My point is that there is a plan to disarm us before some serious fecal matter hits the oscillating device. Just like in Venezuela, the guns will be taken and then the control of the system will squeeze us. It's not a conspiracy theory and it is no accident.
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Post by fordy on Feb 6, 2019 4:28:54 GMT
................What group has ALWAYS opposed the rights of citizens to carry pistols and defend themselves...............THe COPS of course ! If it was UP to them they'd get a law passed to make it illegal to video everything they do in public ! .................THe cops are the largest group of trained LIARS in the country ! They , DONOT like being held accountable for all their excessive use of force , murders of innocent citizens , etc . , fordy
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Post by gob on Feb 6, 2019 11:36:20 GMT
This is real easy to explain. Gun "CONTROL"!
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Post by Txsteader on Feb 6, 2019 13:57:40 GMT
I thought it was becoming pretty obvious, all the leftist issues - from gun control to abortion to open borders to the environment to empowering women - are coming from the UN, under the guise of 'human rights' issues.
It's easy to find; there are resolutions for every issue that Democrats parrot practically word-for-word. Plain as day.
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Post by john on Feb 6, 2019 17:05:21 GMT
Definitely coming through the UN, whether that's the ultimate source or not.
I have no basis for this belief, but if I had to guess, I'd say the Chinese are behind it. Get us weakened enough that we can't fight an insurgent war when they eventually invade to collect on their IOUs. It's a LONG term thing, maybe a hundred years down the road still. They're a patient people.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 17:50:06 GMT
We have seen it repeated multiple times in history. Disarm the people and you control them. Stalin, Hitler, etc. When only the powers that be have the means to fight and protect themselves the people can be easily controlled, robbed, murdered.
I agree that it could be the UN, socialists, any of those who consider themselves to be the “betters” and seek to control.
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Post by beowoulf90 on Feb 7, 2019 12:25:32 GMT
Well, it truly doesn't matter "who" is behind it. What matters is that we keep fighting them and teaching our kids & grand kids the Constitution and to not allow the "Government" to take your Rights.. If we stumble across the ones "who are behind this" we need to expose them or do what ever is needed to make them ineffective / useless..
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Post by fordy on Feb 7, 2019 13:00:34 GMT
................Should the Dems win the presidency , and both Senate and House you can just bet that GUN CONTROL in all it's many forms will be attempted through legislation . IF Trump can put one more Republican on the S.Ct. we will atleast have a chance of over turning any omnivorous gun control that seeks to take away our established rights . , fordy
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Post by blackfeather on Feb 8, 2019 2:25:22 GMT
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Feb 8, 2019 2:55:41 GMT
blackfeather, I agree to a certain extent, the oppressors of society in general would rather not have an armed society, but I wonder if that's not short term thinking. I mean, the elites right now who control the major corporations and banks must realize they're not immortal. For their immediate purposes eliminating an armed populace couldn't come about in their lifetimes. I tend to think there's a long game going on, with the intent to overcome a defenseless country somewhere well into the future. If guns were outlawed today it would take 50 years to get rid of them entirely. My paranoid mind says someone is planting seeds today, and watering them through our foolish politicians and media, to reap their bounty later. China?
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Post by beowoulf90 on Feb 8, 2019 12:40:05 GMT
Ozarks Tom,it may be China, or could be Russia. The catch is, I think this "long game" was started back in the early 1900's, prior to WWI. It failed then, but Freedom took a hit. Then again in the 1930's it came to the fore front again and socialists, like FDR tried to push it. But again Freedom took a hit. Then in the 1960's Gun confiscation rears its ugly head and the racists and socialists push it. with Freedom taking another hit.. Whomever was behind this in the beginning is long dead, but their sick socialistic ideology lives on and has forever gained a foot hold in the US. The new "backers" could be many. In fact I would include most of the UN in the Anti America category, thus backing anything that will destroy our Freedom. So now we not only have those on the outside trying to push their agenda on us, we now have those within that have gained "status" and now have "followings". These "followers" will do anything to achieve their agenda of their perceived utopia.. Too this point we have kept them at bay for the most part. But it seems they are gaining ground.. Note: that may be a false perception generated by Main Stream media prostitutes. But then, it could be that "evil" screams loudest just before it is dispatched. I don't know! I only know that I can't quit fighting..
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Post by joebill on Feb 9, 2019 12:36:56 GMT
Might be overthinking it.
First, make a list of all of the factors that make America strong and secure in it's strength.
Now, check off the ones that have been attacked by the left.....should come out around 100%...I cannot think of one they have missed. No reason to skip an armed populace.
Of course, it is partially supported by the ignoramus vote who believe firmly that any other nation on earth knows better than we do how to run a country, but mostly it is a knee-jerk reaction that tells them that anything that weakens us simply MUST be just dandy. I do not think anybody has a direct answer as to why they obviously crave weakening the nation's moral structure, either, except the reason quoted above.
Tear down family structure?...….ditto support mind rotting drug use?...………………………...ditto destroy our reverence for life so we kill our young in the womb?...…...ditto
I could go on but...……..Joe
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