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Post by Ozarks Tom on Sept 1, 2023 0:51:09 GMT
Biden has just sent another huge chunk of money is going to Ukraine. I heard a Democrat saying that Ukraine losing 450000 soldiers and Russia only 50000 is propaganda That Biden will not change money to digital. Beats me with all going on why Democrats believe that man. As to the 400,000 the cell phone company that services Ukraine has said that is has lost 400,000 customers that were once on the front lines. I suspect that is where some of that number came from.
Seems like Musk put Starlink over Ukraine, which he's complained about being used for military purposes beside regular cell traffic. Not a surprise that since Russian has taken out most of Ukraine's infrastructure that the people would be going with Starlink rather than the towers that aren't there any longer. Oh, the propagandists you're listening to are saying 400,000 people were on the front lines? Maybe you should check your sources, if that was the case the Russians would have been expelled by now.
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Post by Jolly on Sept 1, 2023 1:20:33 GMT
I know a Canadian guy who spent his teenage years in the old U.S.S.R. and then attended university in Moscow for a year. His wife is a Ukranian and she has family over there. As a young man, he did a hitch in the Canadian Army. I sent him a link to this article and he replied it was a pretty good analysis, as best he knew. bigserge.substack.com/p/escaping-attrition-ukraine-rolls
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Post by blackfeather on Sept 1, 2023 22:51:59 GMT
Ozarks Tom, Here, listen to Col. Douglas Macgregor at michaelsavage.com/ podcast #613 titled Col. Macgregor - Ukraine Suffering Stag... There is a short version on YouTube though you'll miss his numbers of 400,000 dead and the count of new graves. He may be retired, but he still has connections inside the Pentagon. Another good news program is Redacted news www.youtube.com/@redactednews/videos
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Sept 2, 2023 1:50:49 GMT
blackfeather , I trust Lt Col Macgregor about as far as I can throw him. I've watched him for years on Fox, and can't think of a time I've believed a word he said. In my opinion he's a leftist with a supposedly conservative title. I'm guessing there's a good reason he retired as a Lt Colonel, which in the military is an upgrade from Major as a gift at retirement. Spending that many years in the army and only making Major tells me a lot about his decision making abilities. Do you really think the Ukrainians every fielded 400,000 soldiers, and all of them killed? C'mon, you know better than to just read articles that promote your already made up opinions.
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Post by sawmilljim on Sept 2, 2023 2:20:33 GMT
Those 400,000 were not all at once. Their last charge has cost them 25,000. Ukraine is on their third army. They are done. If Russia wants to they could level Ukraine in less than twenty four hours with ammo left over for NATO.
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Post by Jolly on Sept 2, 2023 13:37:10 GMT
If Russia could level Ukraine in 24 hours, they would. They can't.
In fact, Russia has been very busy pulling all of their newest tanks (T-14) out of Ukraine. They don't seem to be all the Russians made them out to be. And... They have been pulling older tanks, artillery and newer air defense systems out of the Kuril Islands. Most folks think these weapons will be sent to the Ukraine.
That's interesting, as Russia and Japan have never signed a peace treaty over the Kuril Islands, and Japan just voted the largest defense spending in modern times. If things are going so well in Ukraine, why pull weapons from a disputed territory when your opponent is ramping up their military?
The current Ukranian offensive is not going as well as they had hoped. Two reasons, IMO. The Russians have gotten smarter in their defensive tactics and they have air superiority. If the Ukranians had air superiority or even parity, this would be a different war.
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Post by sawmilljim on Sept 2, 2023 15:16:29 GMT
If Russia could level Ukraine in 24 hours, they would. They can't. In fact, Russia has been very busy pulling all of their newest tanks (T-14) out of Ukraine. They don't seem to be all the Russians made them out to be. And... They have been pulling older tanks, artillery and newer air defense systems out of the Kuril Islands. Most folks think these weapons will be sent to the Ukraine. That's interesting, as Russia and Japan have never signed a peace treaty over the Kuril Islands, and Japan just voted the largest defense spending in modern times. If things are going so well in Ukraine, why pull weapons from a disputed territory when your opponent is ramping up their military? The current Ukranian offensive is not going as well as they had hoped. Two reasons, IMO. The Russians have gotten smarter in their defensive tactics and they have air superiority. If the Ukranians had air superiority or even parity, this would be a different war. It’s been said Russia has been holding back to try preventing spreading the war out of all bounds. Some say one reason they don’t use American tactics and carpet bomb every inch of Ukraine. You really don’t think Russia could level the entire country ? They appear to be the only half sane group involved. Remember NATO is near out of ammunition ? Russia is running their factories 24/7. Should they ever run short I wouldn’t rule out China donating them a few million rounds. As to tanks they also are turning them out by the hundreds every month. Most all donated tanks Ukraine has have had little effect and been destroyed. Watch and see if the US try’s to divert their war efforts to fighting Russia in South Africa. Russia has already donated aircraft and other military supplies.
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Post by blackfeather on Sept 2, 2023 17:20:03 GMT
Ozarks Tom, Here is another one for you Tom www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/new-declassified-docs-show-nixons-intel-briefings-us-backed-chilean-coupYou gripe about Georgia and Ukraine, yet I don't hear you griping about all the South American governments we have overthrown due to our Monroe Doctrine. Russia has a doctrine too, no Nato on their borders. They now have the power to prevent it. If you gripe about them, you'd better be griping about us just as much, or you are a hypocrite. The second thing that amuses me is that you know more than any expert on a subject. You have John Mearsheimer who is a Russian expert, but you discounted him, you have Col MacGregor who still has friends in the Pentagon who feed him information, but because you don't like his truth you discount him. If I were to link Eva Bartlett, Anna Lipp or Venessa Beeley, Journalists, you'd discount them too, even though they are right there on the scene and talking to the people involved. The US isn't like when we were kids, our government has grown evil, defending evil isn't the answer. They have abandoned the constitution, if you want to be patriotic, be patriotic to the constitution the foundation of our laws, not to the corrupt government who is constantly trying to subvert it.
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Post by Ozarks Tom on Sept 2, 2023 17:41:54 GMT
blackfeather, I'm not defending our government, how many posts have I made here criticizing it? But I also know Russian propaganda when I see it, and inflated numbers, claims of righteousness in attacking unthreatening neighbors, and phony "experts" with obvious leanings aren't impressive. It's said, by many, that Ukraine was the 2nd most corrupt country in Europe, guess who was #1?
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Sept 2, 2023 18:56:10 GMT
blackfeather , I'm not defending our government, how many posts have I made here criticizing it? But I also know Russian propaganda when I see it, and inflated numbers, claims of righteousness in attacking unthreatening neighbors, and phony "experts" with obvious leanings aren't impressive. It's said, by many, that Ukraine was the 2nd most corrupt country in Europe, guess who was #1? The US? 😉
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Sept 2, 2023 19:03:20 GMT
I watched that last night or maybe during the wee hours of the morning…rather concerning. I hope Tucker’s wrong on this one but with the Dems at the helm, it’s certainly a possibility. Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it but Zelensky is said to be threatening to cancel elections unless *we* fund them. 🤬
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Post by sawmilljim on Sept 2, 2023 19:37:11 GMT
I watched that last night or maybe during the wee hours of the morning…rather concerning. I hope Tucker’s wrong on this one but with the Dems at the helm, it’s certainly a possibility. Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it but Zelensky is said to be threatening to cancel elections unless *we* fund them. 🤬 Think he did cancel elections already. He declared martial law long ago. Also closed any news outlets he didn’t control. US has the money presses running 24/7 to keep everything paid.
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Post by sunny225 on Sept 2, 2023 19:38:15 GMT
blackfeather , I'm not defending our government, how many posts have I made here criticizing it? But I also know Russian propaganda when I see it, and inflated numbers, claims of righteousness in attacking unthreatening neighbors, and phony "experts" with obvious leanings aren't impressive. It's said, by many, that Ukraine was the 2nd most corrupt country in Europe, guess who was #1? The US? 😉 I almost said that but then saw that@ozarkstom, said "in Europe". But I think that Ukraine is the most corrupt there. And Biden & his family is involved in that corruption. Not to mention that I've heard that Ukraine is the biggest trafficker in children for sex.
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Post by sawmilljim on Sept 2, 2023 19:46:56 GMT
Biden did state his goal was overthrow Putin. All those around him are yes men. Should Putin go and should the former president take power only to second coming of Jesus would be able to stop what will happen. The people of Russia wants this over with. Putin so far has kept control of things. Patrick Lancaster just did a walk around Russia talking to the people on the street. He does lots of videos for Redacted and has lived in Russia for years.
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Post by wildhorseluvr on Sept 2, 2023 19:51:30 GMT
sunny225, I missed the “Europe” part, LOL. Yeah, Zelensky and Biden are evil. The funny thing is, especially at Biden’s age and in his condition, just what is he going to do with it all? He’s very short on time. Heck, we could’ve just kept Biden stocked with ice cream…made him happy and saved ourselves an enormous sum of money. I feel sorry for both the Ukrainian people and we Americans. Even many of the Russian people.
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